Defending Bush on social issues

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Lee Jackson Beauregard said:
My point here is not that this man Bush is a hero on all issues or without political sin. My view is that he has many faults, some of them important, but that he is nowhere close to what leftist writers and his Democratic opponents portray him as being: a figure of demonic purposes and the compassion of a rock.

Nice strawman by the author. He is not "portrayed" by his opponents as being anything less than a rote incompetent who has not adequately been prepared for his office.

That's just not true. Some portray him as an idiot while others simply say he is evil and devilish. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. You can't be an evil genious and be a moron.
 
Evil genius? Oh, please. He would have to have something more than a childlike understanding of damned near any subject to be that.

He's not evil, he's mentally spun.
 
This is hilarious. If I might borrow from Chris Rock ...

W's trying to help the homeless and stop genocide -- give that man a cookie.

Are we to give Bush credit for doing **** an ordinary person would just automatically do? Is this how far the expectations of the president of the United States have fallen?

Breaking news, fellas: When you're the leader of the free world, sending extra cash to try and stop millions of deaths in a foreign nation is something that sorta goes with the job. It's understood when you take the oath. As is doing all you can to shelter and feed the poor citizens of your country.

Son of a *****, what's next? A story on how W always says thank you when someone holds the door for him?
 
Lamar Mundane said:
Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Truman, Lincoln, FDR?

I don't think so.

More like Coolidge, Hoover, Tricky ****, the Peanut Farmer from Plains.

History will not be kind to Fredo. Or Cheney. But they don't care. After all, they're the deciders.
 
Jesus_Muscatel said:
Lamar Mundane said:
Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Truman, Lincoln, FDR?

I don't think so.

More like Coolidge, Hoover, Tricky ****, the Peanut Farmer from Plains.

History will not be kind to Fredo. Or Cheney. But they don't care. After all, they're the deciders.

Read some of the stuff the press said about Lincoln when he was president. It makes some of the anti-Bush stuff look like child's play.

I'm not at all saying Bush is another Lincoln, but he history was pretty kind to him.
 
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Bush's "plan" for Social Security basically boils down to:

Get rich and you won't have to worry about it.
 
He's not an evil genius. He's a tool for the rich corporate stringpullers. Virtually everything done through the '06 elections can be traced back/rationalized/justified, through that mindset. It isn't hard.
 
hondo said:
If someone from the Eagle Tribune could get the informatioin for a story, so could the Times, Post, CNN and the networks.

Ambrose is a syndicated columnist whose stuff is distributed through Scripps-Howard. Don't be fooled by the Eagle-Tribune tag on his Web byline; that's one of the most incompetent Web sites in the country.

More on Ambrose:
http://www.i2i.org/main/author.php?author_id=98
 
Ben_Hecht said:
He's not an evil genius. He's a tool for the rich corporate stringpullers. Virtually everything done through the '06 elections can be traced back/rationalized/justified, through that mindset. It isn't hard.

That about sums it up.
 
cranberry said:
Ben_Hecht said:
He's not an evil genius. He's a tool for the rich corporate stringpullers. Virtually everything done through the '06 elections can be traced back/rationalized/justified, through that mindset. It isn't hard.

That about sums it up.

As does this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/washington/30rules.html?hp&ex=1170219600&en=9f1468dd91984d81&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Domestically, he's pretty much the WPE, too.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
cranberry said:
Ben_Hecht said:
He's not an evil genius. He's a tool for the rich corporate stringpullers. Virtually everything done through the '06 elections can be traced back/rationalized/justified, through that mindset. It isn't hard.

That about sums it up.

As does this.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/washington/30rules.html?hp&ex=1170219600&en=9f1468dd91984d81&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Domestically, he's pretty much the WPE, too.

Business groups welcomed the executive order, saying it had the potential to reduce what they saw as the burden of federal regulations. This burden is of great concern to many groups, including small businesses, that have given strong political and financial backing to Mr. Bush.

Consumer, labor and environmental groups denounced the executive order, saying it gave too much control to the White House and would hinder agencies’ efforts to protect the public.



Of course, none of this is new. The Bushes have a family legacy of deregulation on behalf of corporate interests. When HW was vice president he was Reagan's lead guy on deregulation. As I recall, he was even referred to as the deregulation czar. W picked up on daddy's work quickly, too. How long did it take for him to summon all his oil industry cronies in to the White House to rewrite the country's energy policy.
 
Political hacks will determine what science really is.
Sorry.
Still awful.
 
On the Social Security privitization plan, you don't know if that would benefit any actual Social Security recipients.

It sure as hell would benefit banks and brokers and such immensely.

Pass.
 
Of course, none of this is new. The Bushes have a family legacy of deregulation on behalf of corporate interests. When HW was vice president he was Reagan's lead guy on deregulation. As I recall, he was even referred to as the deregulation czar. W picked up on daddy's work quickly, too. How long did it take for him to summon all his oil industry cronies in to the White House to rewrite the country's energy policy.

Did you catch the documentary "Enron, Smartest Guys in the Room"? Made me want to throw a shoe at the TV. The head of engergy regulation guy was connected to Bush/Enron and he did nothing while people in California sat in the dark. Absolutely infuriating.
 
andyouare? said:
Of course, none of this is new. The Bushes have a family legacy of deregulation on behalf of corporate interests. When HW was vice president he was Reagan's lead guy on deregulation. As I recall, he was even referred to as the deregulation czar. W picked up on daddy's work quickly, too. How long did it take for him to summon all his oil industry cronies in to the White House to rewrite the country's energy policy.

Did you catch the documentary "Enron, Smartest Guys in the Room"? Made me want to throw a shoe at the TV. The head of engergy regulation guy was connected to Bush/Enron and he did nothing while people in California sat in the dark. Absolutely infuriating.

Of course, it's not like everybody knew everybody else or anything.
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/stories/020606.html
 
If you would have asked me yesterday, I would have said that there is nothing you could tell me that could possibly lower my estimation of Ralph Reed.

The man oozes pus and evil.
 
Someone might know more about this, but it seems the country is Sweden. No family's wages are below a strong minimum - far above ours percentage-wise. They spend less on social ills we seem to spend more on than anyone.

When wages are up, crime is down, drug abuse is down (including dealers who can made a safer wage), social ills are down. It doesn't mean they go away, but it's considerably lower.
 
printdust said:
Someone might know more about this, but it seems the country is Sweden. No family's wages are below a strong minimum - far above ours percentage-wise. They spend less on social ills we seem to spend more on than anyone.

When wages are up, crime is down, drug abuse is down, including dealers who can made a safer wage), social ills are down. It doesn't mean they go away, but it's considerably lower.

All-righty then.

Thanks for that.
 
So let's compare the expense on social ills with what it would cost to have a legitimate living wage for every family in this country. C'mon Zeke, you obviously have an enormous arsenal of information in addition to the plethora of knowledge in your head. Crunch the numbers.
 

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