Daily newspaper coming to Detroit

[WaylonJennings]

If I'm able to scare up a copy today I'll post a review.

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

I looked for a copy at a Walgreens and CVS and neither had one. Didn't really see any boxes either.


Just looked at their web site and it's still the same thing as its been the last week. Just a link to subscribe. No content.

 

[WolvEagle]

Didn't see a copy today, either. No Web site that I could find through Google, either.

 

[TwoGloves]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

Didn't see a copy today, either. No Web site that I could find through Google, either.

This is what they advertise on their facebook page.

http://www.detdailypress.com/

 

[Magic In The Night]

Someone had one in the office today. Apparently, they're trying to do it without copy editors because there was a huge Page 1A error in a cutline. Geez.

 

[Drip]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

::) ::) ::)

 

[murphyc]

Interesting...tough time to start up much of anything...much less a newspaper...best of luck to them though...it would be nice to see some good news out there.

We started our weekly (my boss and me, plus an advertising person) a year ago last Saturday. Not the best time, and in a town that had lost two papers in two years. We're still around, stopped doing free complete stories on our web site during the summer and we're still trying to gain traction (up against 3 TV stations and a well-established daily) in terms of advertising. We have a bit north of 700 subscribers and ads seem to have really picked up lately, hope I didn't just jinx it. ;) As far as full-time staff still three people, only me on the editorial side. Fortunately I had a good recent grad who mainly covers sports as an unpaid intern.
IMO the new daily in Detroit is starting too big for its resources, maybe go fewer days to start (say 4-5 days), but to each their own. Best of luck to them.

 

[slappy4428]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

Gawd, you are a boring, unoriginal PITA.
That said, I know a lot of the people on this site -- worked with a bunch of them at a Lean Dean site that's been closed 15 years. I wish them luck ...

 

[WolvEagle]

Picked up the first two copies today. The guys at the gas station said Monday's paper arrived at about 8 a.m.; it arrived today at about 7:15 a.m., just as I was about to leave, so I went back in. I live in an inner-ring suburb.

I didn't look too closely at content because I'm editing for our paper on deadline today, but the overall look was good. For both days, it was a 12-page A section and an 8-page B, led by sports. They landed some solid sports names - Rob Parker (regardless of what you think of him), George Cantor and Keith Gave (the latter two are great pickups). Cantor had a good, long analysis of the U-M football season. Two of the guys I used to work with in Ann Arbor, Dave Holzman and James Briggs, are great pickups, too. There's even a news-sider I used to work with who's a very good reporter.

The print job was very, very clean - cleaner than the Detroit papers. The layouts were good, too.

Overall, a very solid start. The worry, though, is money. Here's hoping that they manage it well.

 

[golfnut8924]

Picked up the first two copies today. The guys at the gas station said Monday's paper arrived at about 8 a.m.; it arrived today at about 7:15 a.m., just as I was about to leave, so I went back in. I live in an inner-ring suburb.

I didn't look too closely at content because I'm editing for our paper on deadline today, but the overall look was good. For both days, it was a 12-page A section and an 8-page B, led by sports. They landed some solid sports names - Rob Parker (regardless of what you think of him), George Cantor and Keith Gave (the latter two are great pickups). Cantor had a good, long analysis of the U-M football season. Two of the guys I used to work with in Ann Arbor, Dave Holzman and James Briggs, are great pickups, too. There's even a news-sider I used to work with who's a very good reporter.

The print job was very, very clean - cleaner than the Detroit papers. The layouts were good, too.

Overall, a very solid start. The worry, though, is money. Here's hoping that they manage it well.

Did they have many ads?

 

[WolvEagle]

A decent amount, but they'll need more to stay viable.

 

[Peg McNichol]

They're loading this paper up with people who have taken buyouts or in Parker's case, "buyouts" from the Freep and News. My old boss is working there and says they've been putting the thing together for a month or so and no one has gotten a penny yet. Doesn't bode well, I'd say.

They're going to be hungry and determined.

Hungry.
Determined.
Excited.

Everyone's comments here are, as usual, instructive. :)

 

[WolvEagle]

I'd estimate that the advertising-editorial percentage, not counting house ads, is 20-80. Not good, but it's a start.

 

[Drip]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

Gawd, you are a boring, unoriginal PITA.
That said, I know a lot of the people on this site -- worked with a bunch of them at a Lean Dean site that's been closed 15 years. I wish them luck ...

Do you actually think you're the ONLY person that has worked with these people? Give it a break man. IT GETS OLD!!!!

 

[Hank_Scorpio]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

Gawd, you are a boring, unoriginal PITA.
That said, I know a lot of the people on this site -- worked with a bunch of them at a Lean Dean site that's been closed 15 years. I wish them luck ...

Do you actually think you're the ONLY person that has worked with these people? Give it a break man. IT GETS OLD!!!!

Says the guy who knows EVERY person at EVERY newspaper EVER.

Take your own advice.

 

[Drip]

Crain's says the sports columnist will be Rob Parker.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091113/FREE/911139984#

Well that's a heaping helping of fail right there.

The model could work. He has credible, if not controversial, journalists in the fold. The problem is that Detroit, and Michigan for that matter, is hurting so badly financially. The timing may be a little premature.

Rob Parker is not a credible journalist. He's got a trail of fabrication/plagiarism in his checkered history, to say nothing of sub-replacement-level competence and major ethical breaches (borrowing large sums of money from sources).

Many know that I'm a Rob friend and I'm not going to defend his past, however, you can't take away that people will read what he has written, good or bad. Not many scribes on these threads can say the same thing.

Yup. The rest of us are just a bunch of no-talent hacks who wish we had Rob's resume.

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

Gawd, you are a boring, unoriginal PITA.
That said, I know a lot of the people on this site -- worked with a bunch of them at a Lean Dean site that's been closed 15 years. I wish them luck ...

Do you actually think you're the ONLY person that has worked with these people? Give it a break man. IT GETS OLD!!!!

Says the guy who knows EVERY person at EVERY newspaper EVER.

Take your own advice.

Son, you STILL haven't a clue. I have nothing to prove to you and you have nothing to prove to me. GROW UP AND STOP INSTIGATING. That too gets old.

 

[playthrough]

All of you, stop. Please.

 

[Starman]

Perhaps if you had half of Rob's resume, you wouldn't consider yourself as a no talent hack. Enough with the hatred.

I don't have half of Rob's resume because I haven't been fired from a dozen jobs yet.

;)