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Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone lights up ESPN blow hard Colin Cowherd. Me likee.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/matt-taibbi/blogs/TaibbiData_May2010/202082
 
Cowherd was right. You are "worth" whatever someone is willing to pay you and what you are willing to work for.
Of course, it helps if you are on TV or radio and can compare your performance against others with ratings. It's supply and demand.
A steelworker?
I thought the teacher thing the LA Times did was interesting, but as long as public money is involved - teachers will always be underpaid.

I have a hard time saying NFL players don't earn their money seeing how many (who might be out of the league before making $1 million, cost themselves years at the backend by playing such a violent game.
 
Matt Taibi is a self-important ****.

Not that Colin Cowherd isn't as well.
 
So Colin Cowherd goes on the air with a screed that mixes up unrelated observations that don't really follow logically, in order to make an emotional conclusion that will appeal to a certain segment of people who allow their biases to drown out their ability to reason. And Matt Taibi responds in print with a screed that mixes up unrelated observations that don't really follow logically, in order to make an emotional conclusion that will appeal to a certain segment of people who allow their biases to drown out their ability to reason.

The correct answer is: They are both babbling idiots.

And Dan, Cowherd was right about certain things, but he made jumps from a few right observations to hysterical and unrelated hyperbolic conclusions.

The reason unions have largely failed--aside from corruption--is that they largely represent the interests of people who have little leverage. And without leverage, you can't collectively bargain. When you have an unskilled job, such as a steelworker, auto worker or a cashier, and demand for your job way exceeds the supply of those jobs, your ability to collectively negotiate is nil. Collectively, you are still all easily replaceable.

NFL players, on the other hand, have a lot of leverage. If Peyton Manning sits, there aren't 100 other Peyton Mannings ready to step in. Which is why professional sports is one of the very few areas where collective bargaining is effective and makes sense. By collectively bargaining, athletes in various sports leagues have used the leverage they have to maximize how much they earn. Before they joined forces and unionized, they were negotiating individually and failing to benefit from the leverage they enjoy.
 
99% of the calls and emails ESPN got were critical of the players.

The owners are going to annihilate the players' unions in upcoming contract talks in the NFL, NBA and MLB. And this is why.
 
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Starman said:
99% of the calls and emails ESPN got were critical of the players.

The owners are going to annihilate the players' unions in upcoming contract talks in the NFL, NBA and MLB. And this is why.

Strikes/lockouts have been popular with the public in previous years?
 
Starman said:
99% of the calls and emails ESPN got were critical of the players.

The owners are going to annihilate the players' unions in upcoming contract talks in the NFL, NBA and MLB. And this is why.

Past history supports your point when it comes to the NFL and NBA, but when it comes to MLB, you are absolutely talking out of your ass.
 
Ace said:
Starman said:
99% of the calls and emails ESPN got were critical of the players.

The owners are going to annihilate the players' unions in upcoming contract talks in the NFL, NBA and MLB. And this is why.

Strikes/lockouts have been popular with the public in previous years?

The public always sides with the owners, the result of 100+ years of nonstop slurping by the media.
 
The Big Ragu said:
So Colin Cowherd goes on the air with a screed that mixes up unrelated observations that don't really follow logically, in order to make an emotional conclusion that will appeal to a certain segment of people who allow their biases to drown out their ability to reason. And Matt Taibi responds in print with a screed that mixes up unrelated observations that don't really follow logically, in order to make an emotional conclusion that will appeal to a certain segment of people who allow their biases to drown out their ability to reason.

Thank you for this.
 
Armchair_QB said:
Why does anyone listen to Colin Cowherd?

It really is a mystery.

As for Taibbi vs. Cowherd, Taibbi might be self-important as hell, but I take him 1 million times over clown Cowherd.
 
I know I'll take shots here but Cowherd is the only choice on ESPN Radio or really any national sports radio choice for me.

Mike & Mike shy away from controversy on any subject. They are the "house" show and will shill for anything from Subway to Tabasco sauce.

Van Pelt is afraid to take strong stands and is too busy name dropping college bars...as a 40 year old man. I do love it, however, when he shifts dialects when interview a subject who happens to be an African-American.

Dan Patrick can't carry a show without his yes-men, Reggie Miller or the endless name dropping.

I like Cowherd because his "act" aims for my demo - I'm a busy guy who is into the "big issues" of sports. I could care less about breaking down a game. I'll pop in and listen for 20 minutes here and there. He'll talk girls, cars, real estate, running a business as well as sports. I'll take that over listening to some 10 minute interview on Van Pelt with a Georgia Tech running back.

EDIT: Just read the Taibbi bit.

Yes, a handful of people in life "bring in money" to a business. Limbaugh, Simon Cowell (there's a reason he went LAST on the comments), Drew Brees & Tom Brady in the NFL. People tune in or watch FOR THEM. They are legitimate stars in their respective fields. When Limbaugh is on vacation, his audience probably goes down 70%. When Brees or Brady are injured, productivity goes down. Let's see what Idol will be without Cowell.

I'm more shocked Taibbi actually believes the stuff he is writing here. Most unions I've been associated with do exactly what Cowherd spells out - protect the lazy, untalented and mediocre -- not exactly traits that get you into the NFL.
 
exmediahack said:
I know I'll take shots here but Cowherd is the only choice on ESPN Radio or really any national sports radio choice for me.

Mike & Mike shy away from controversy on any subject. They are the "house" show and will shill for anything from Subway to Tabasco sauce.

Van Pelt is afraid to take strong stands and is too busy name dropping college bars...as a 40 year old man. I do love it, however, when he shifts dialects when interview a subject who happens to be an African-American.

Dan Patrick can't carry a show without his yes-men, Reggie Miller or the endless name dropping.

I like Cowherd because his "act" aims for my demo - I'm a busy guy who is into the "big issues" of sports. I could care less about breaking down a game. I'll pop in and listen for 20 minutes here and there. He'll talk girls, cars, real estate, running a business as well as sports. I'll take that over listening to some 10 minute interview on Van Pelt with a Georgia Tech running back.

EDIT: Just read the Taibbi bit.

Yes, a handful of people in life "bring in money" to a business. Limbaugh, Simon Cowell (there's a reason he went LAST on the comments), Drew Brees & Tom Brady in the NFL. People tune in or watch FOR THEM. They are legitimate stars in their respective fields. When Limbaugh is on vacation, his audience probably goes down 70%. When Brees or Brady are injured, productivity goes down. Let's see what Idol will be without Cowell.

I'm more shocked Taibbi actually believes the stuff he is writing here. Most unions I've been associated with do exactly what Cowherd spells out - protect the lazy, untalented and mediocre -- not exactly traits that get you into the NFL.

Then you need to associate with more unions, because over the years they have offered exactly the kind of protection that Taibbi is writing about.
 
Armchair_QB said:
Why does anyone listen to Colin Cowherd?


Because in the cosmos of sports radio programs, his is in the upper echelon - - cf JT The Brick, Stephen A. Smith, 2 Live Stews, Petros Papadakis, Doug Gotlieb just to name a few programs off the top of my head.

Cowherd is hardly Edward R. Murrow but given "the competition", his views and his topics can actually make the listener think once in a while...
 
outofplace said:
exmediahack said:
I know I'll take shots here but Cowherd is the only choice on ESPN Radio or really any national sports radio choice for me.

Mike & Mike shy away from controversy on any subject. They are the "house" show and will shill for anything from Subway to Tabasco sauce.

Van Pelt is afraid to take strong stands and is too busy name dropping college bars...as a 40 year old man. I do love it, however, when he shifts dialects when interview a subject who happens to be an African-American.

Dan Patrick can't carry a show without his yes-men, Reggie Miller or the endless name dropping.

I like Cowherd because his "act" aims for my demo - I'm a busy guy who is into the "big issues" of sports. I could care less about breaking down a game. I'll pop in and listen for 20 minutes here and there. He'll talk girls, cars, real estate, running a business as well as sports. I'll take that over listening to some 10 minute interview on Van Pelt with a Georgia Tech running back.

EDIT: Just read the Taibbi bit.

Yes, a handful of people in life "bring in money" to a business. Limbaugh, Simon Cowell (there's a reason he went LAST on the comments), Drew Brees & Tom Brady in the NFL. People tune in or watch FOR THEM. They are legitimate stars in their respective fields. When Limbaugh is on vacation, his audience probably goes down 70%. When Brees or Brady are injured, productivity goes down. Let's see what Idol will be without Cowell.

I'm more shocked Taibbi actually believes the stuff he is writing here. Most unions I've been associated with do exactly what Cowherd spells out - protect the lazy, untalented and mediocre -- not exactly traits that get you into the NFL.

Then you need to associate with more unions, because over the years they have offered exactly the kind of protection that Taibbi is writing about.

emh is right. Union power has been dwindling over the years for two reasons — the one spelled out above and the fact that the leadership is often at odds politically with the rank and file.
 
jackfinarelli said:
Armchair_QB said:
Why does anyone listen to Colin Cowherd?


Because in the cosmos of sports radio programs, his is in the upper echelon - - cf JT The Brick, Stephen A. Smith, 2 Live Stews, Petros Papadakis, Doug Gotlieb just to name a few programs off the top of my head.

Cowherd is hardly Edward R. Murrow but given "the competition", his views and his topics can actually make the listener think once in a while...

So he's the World's Tallest Midget.

The few times I've tried to listen to him the only thing he's made me think is that he's annoying as hell to listen to and does not seem to possess the ability to come up with an original thought.
 
I have no problem with Cowherd. Ya, he's a self-important asshole. So would most people be if given a microphone and lots of cash. I just wish ESPN would stop running that God-awful "Mrs. Doubtfire" promo on his show 14 times a day.
 
Armchair_QB said:
jackfinarelli said:
Armchair_QB said:
Why does anyone listen to Colin Cowherd?


Because in the cosmos of sports radio programs, his is in the upper echelon - - cf JT The Brick, Stephen A. Smith, 2 Live Stews, Petros Papadakis, Doug Gotlieb just to name a few programs off the top of my head.

Cowherd is hardly Edward R. Murrow but given "the competition", his views and his topics can actually make the listener think once in a while...

So he's the World's Tallest Midget.

The few times I've tried to listen to him the only thing he's made me think is that he's annoying as hell to listen to and does not seem to possess the ability to come up with an original thought.


In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

If I have to listen to sports radio and all I have to listen to are "midgets"; then indeed, I will choose to listen to the tallest of the midgets and those closest to his height.
 
jackfinarelli said:
Armchair_QB said:
jackfinarelli said:
Armchair_QB said:
Why does anyone listen to Colin Cowherd?


Because in the cosmos of sports radio programs, his is in the upper echelon - - cf JT The Brick, Stephen A. Smith, 2 Live Stews, Petros Papadakis, Doug Gotlieb just to name a few programs off the top of my head.

Cowherd is hardly Edward R. Murrow but given "the competition", his views and his topics can actually make the listener think once in a while...

So he's the World's Tallest Midget.

The few times I've tried to listen to him the only thing he's made me think is that he's annoying as hell to listen to and does not seem to possess the ability to come up with an original thought.


In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

If I have to listen to sports radio and all I have to listen to are "midgets"; then indeed, I will choose to listen to the tallest of the midgets and those closest to his height.

He is far from the one eyed man. The only ones nearly as bad as he is (that we get here in the NY area) is SAS, and Kusilius, who is a less successful version of Cowherd. If the word smarmy didn't exist, I would coin it for these two.
 

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