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Coming out summer 2008. We already know Heath Ledger is the Joker. Now, it's been firmed up that Aaron Eckhart will play D.A. Harvey Dent (meaning he'll probably be Two-Face in the third movie) and SportsJournalists.com favorite Maggie Gyllenhaal will be Batman's love interest.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31602
 
tyler durden 71351 said:
Coming out summer 2008. We already know Heath Ledger is the Joker. Now, it's been firmed up that Aaron Eckhart will play D.A. Harvey Dent (meaning he'll probably be Two-Face in the third movie) and SportsJournalists.com favorite Maggie Gyllenhaal will be Batman's love interest.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31602

I'm pumped, except for Maggie Gyllenhal. She doesn't do it for me, but I love Ledger and Eckhart as choices. Nice! Thanks for the post, Tyler.
 
I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain, but I've never been convinced Heath Ledger is a good actor. Even if he is (I'll give every critic the benefit of the doubt on Brokeback), I'm not sure I see him pulling off the Joker. I don't think he's got the look and I don't know if he can pull off 'criminally insane.' Plus, he's got major shoes to fill.

Still, I'm already looking forward to this flick.
 
bigpern23 said:
I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain, but I've never been convinced Heath Ledger is a good actor. Even if he is (I'll give every critic the benefit of the doubt on Brokeback), I'm not sure I see him pulling off the Joker. I don't think he's got the look and I don't know if he can pull off 'criminally insane.' Plus, he's got major shoes to fill.

Still, I'm already looking forward to this flick.
I never thought Ledger was a good actor until "Brokeback". I would have liked Adrien Brody or Paul Bettany for the Joker, but Christopher Nolan deserves the benefit of the doubt. What they ought to do is just adapt "The Killing Joke" for the screen. I want to see a ****house crazy Joker cutting up people with a straight razor....none of that Jack Nicholson overacting b.s.
 
tyler durden 71351 said:
What they ought to do is just adapt "The Killing Joke" for the screen.

Now that would be awesome!

Also, love the idea of Brody as the joker. That would be outstanding.

Crimson - I agree. Eckhart kicks ass.
 
I'd be happier if they would leave a love interest out entirely. It's Batman, damnit, not Starfox (insanely obscure comic reference there).

I can definitely see Eckhart in that role, just as Bale sounded like a great idea as Batman from day one.

Ledger as the Joker? I'm waiting to be convinced. As long as the character is brutal, psychotic and scary rather than just over-the-top goofy, I'll be happy.
 
tyler durden 71351 said:
Coming out summer 2008. We already know Heath Ledger is the Joker. Now, it's been firmed up that Aaron Eckhart will play D.A. Harvey Dent (meaning he'll probably be Two-Face in the third movie) and SportsJournalists.com favorite Maggie Gyllenhaal will be Batman's love interest.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31602

Batman-on-film.com has Gyllenhaal as Rachel Dawes, replacing Katie Holmes, not as a new character.

As has been said, I'm giving Nolan the benefit of the doubt on the casting. He didn't go wrong the first time, or in any of his other movies. I'm sure Ledger screentested. Christian Bale had to as Batman. They don't just give away these parts to name actors and hope they come up with the character.
 
Was Jack's performance as Joker really that bad? I thought he did a great job given what they wanted him to do. I thought he did a good job as Joker as did Carey as Riddler, IMO.
 
Prince of Persia said:
Was Jack's performance as Joker really that bad? I thought he did a great job given what they wanted him to do. I thought he did a good job as Joker as did Carey as Riddler, IMO.

It's great for people who aren't passionate about the comics, but not for people who are, especially the Frank Miller (Batman: Year One, etc.) and Alan Moore (The Killing Joke, etc.) stuff. It's not true to that version of the Joker, which is what those people really want to see and is supposedly what we're going to get in The Dark Knight. The Joker is a mysterious ****ing psycho in those books, but also has depth. Nicholson was a caricature of that, an enjoyable one for most people, but fraudulent to the passionate fans.
 
Prince of Persia said:
Was Jack's performance as Joker really that bad? I thought he did a great job given what they wanted him to do. I thought he did a good job as Joker as did Carey as Riddler, IMO.

It's not so much that he did a bad job. He was playing a character vastly different from the one in the comics, who was much scarier and more well-developed.
 
I look forward to seeing Joker as bitter psycho killer. He's not a funny man, he's a scary dude who kills indiscriminately.

And Batman has trouble figuring him out.

My hope is that Gyllenhall's character is there to be killed off. Let's really plunge Batman into the depths, walking the line between psycho and sane.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jokerkillingjoke.png

This is from The Killing Joke and what people want.


I tried to put the pic right in there but it's just a red X. Don't know how to fix it.
 
Piotr Rasputin said:
I look forward to seeing Joker as bitter psycho killer. He's not a funny man, he's a scary dude who kills indiscriminately.

And Batman has trouble figuring him out.

My hope is that Gyllenhall's character is there to be killed off. Let's really plunge Batman into the depths, walking the line between psycho and sane.

The Joker amuses himself, basically, doing things he finds funny but are terrifying to everyone else.

And I agree on the Gyllenhaal thing. Batman and the Joker need each other once their relationship is established. They really do create each other, just not in the Tim Burton, convenient for a movie plot kind of way.
 
I think these are the most serious posts I've ever made here, and they're on a Batman thread. I don't know what that says about me, but I like it.
 

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