Baseball question: 2-2-2

[Buck]

Other than Lincecum, does anybody have two no-hitters, two Cy Youngs and two World Series championships?

 

[Steak Snabler]

Koufax surely.

He actually had 4-3-4 (4 no-hitters, 3 Cy Youngs, 4 World Series rings).

 

[MTM]

Think I heard Lincecum, Koufax, Randy Johnson and Roy Halladay are the only pitchers with multiple no hitters and multiple Cy Youngs.

Lincecum and Halladay would be in the 2-2-2 club. Koufax had four no hitters and three Cys and Unit was 5 and 2.

Koufax is only other one with more than one championship.

 

[93Devil]

Carlton?

 

[Steak Snabler]

Think I heard Lincecum, Koufax, Randy Johnson and Roy Halladay are the only pitchers with multiple no hitters and multiple Cy Youngs.

Lincecun and Halladay would be in the 2-2-2 club. Koufax had four no hitters and three Cys and Unit was 5 and 2.

Halladay never won a World Series.

Carlton?

Carlton never threw a no-hitter.

 

[Buck]

Johnson and Halladay don't have two World Series rings.

It's just Lincecum and Koufax?

 

[LongTimeListener]

When he threw the no-no last year, there was this note: The pitchers with two Cy Young Awards, two World Series titles and a no-hitter: Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Jim Palmer and Lincecum.

Scratch Gibson and Palmer from the updated list. So, yeah, now it's just Koufax and Mister Four-Plus ERA.

 

[93Devil]

Think I heard Lincecum, Koufax, Randy Johnson and Roy Halladay are the only pitchers with multiple no hitters and multiple Cy Youngs.

Lincecun and Halladay would be in the 2-2-2 club. Koufax had four no hitters and three Cys and Unit was 5 and 2.

Halladay never won a World Series.

Carlton?

Carlton never threw a no-hitter.

Damn. Maybe the aliens jinxed him.

 

[Steak Snabler]

Johnson and Halladay don't have two World Series rings.

It's just Lincecum and Koufax?

Pretty sure (though if the Cy Young Award had existed in Christy Mathewson's time, he probably would have won 3 or 4).

 

[Buck]

Koufax won three WS titles, right? Dodgers didn't win in '66?

 

[Steak Snabler]

Koufax won three WS titles, right? Dodgers didn't win in '66?

He was on the team in 1955, though he didn't pitch in the World Series. And was on the teams that won in 1959, 63, 65.

 

[Mystery Meat II]

I thought this would answer -- or at least ask again -- a question I've had for 20 years. I've seen two balls, two strikes and two outs called a bugaboo, and I don't understand why.

 

[linotype]

Johnson and Halladay don't have two World Series rings.

It's just Lincecum and Koufax?

Pretty sure (though if the Cy Young Award had existed in Christy Mathewson's time, he probably would have won 3 or 4).

I would have guessed ol' Cy Young himself except that he only won one World Series (of course the first 13 seasons of his 22-year career came before there was such a thing as a World Series) and it's damn hard to win an award that wasn't even created until you're dead.

 

[LongTimeListener]

511 wins? Compiler.

 

[Football_Bat]

I thought this would answer -- or at least ask again -- a question I've had for 20 years. I've seen two balls, two strikes and two outs called a bugaboo, and I don't understand why.

"Deuces wild."

 

[SEC Guy]

I don't know what to make of Lincecum.

Is he the next Bret Saberhagen?

 

[Steak Snabler]

I don't know what to make of Lincecum.

Is he the next Bret Saberhagen?

Saberhagen got hurt (several times actually), so that's not really a valid comparison. Same with Dwight Gooden, Luis Tiant, Fernando Valenzuela and Orel Hershiser.

I've been wracking my brain to come up with a comp for Lincecum, a guy who was so dominant early in his career then fell off sharply and became just another guy without getting hurt. Vida Blue maybe, but he had a cocaine problem (and wasn't ever as bad for an extended period as Lincecum is now until very late in his career).

 

[LongTimeListener]

I don't think there's a Timmy comp. I mean, look at the guys he compares to on a list of achievements.

And yet at age 28 he was the single worst starting pitcher in all of major league baseball.

 

[SEC Guy]

I don't know what to make of Lincecum.

Is he the next Bret Saberhagen?

Saberhagen got hurt (several times actually), so that's not really a valid comparison. Same with Dwight Gooden, Luis Tiant, Fernando Valenzuela and Orel Hershiser.

I've been wracking my brain to come up with a comp for Lincecum, a guy who was so dominant early in his career then fell off sharply and became just another guy without getting hurt. Vida Blue maybe, but he had a cocaine problem (and wasn't ever as bad for an extended period as Lincecum is now until very late in his career).

Saberhagen was terribly inconsistent even before he got injured. I remember how terrible he was after he won his first Cy Young. Then he was good in 1987, mediocre in 1988 and won the Cy Young in 1989.

I think his first big injury was in 1990.

 

[SEC Guy]

I don't think there's a Timmy comp. I mean, look at the guys he compares to on a list of achievements.

And yet at age 28 he was the single worst starting pitcher in all of major league baseball.

It was almost surreal to watch him pitch middle relief in the 2012 playoffs.