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Simon_Cowbell

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... a pulsating, tremendous episode.

... another tremendous older character actor dredged up in Michael Lerner (Barton Fink)
 
Agreed. Solid episode. I have a feeling things are headed downhill for Vince.
 
Great episode. Things might get tough for Vince for a bit, but the show wouldn't be what it was if he didn't always come out on top. That's what makes it so fun.
 
As a wise poster a few weeks ago said, this show is at its best when it's giving you that peek behind the curtain and a view of the wrangling and maneuvering in the motion picture industry. Tonight's episode was proof. Curious to see how Vince and E come up with the coin to finance this. (How they haven't spent themselves into debt already amazes me.)
 
anyone else note the parallel of Tony Soprano and Johnny Drama ending their respective episodes standing atop a western crag at dawn and shouting into the void?

did HBO get the writers together or was it just serendipitous?

great episode. Ari's back, Vince and E showed their newly begotten backbone (thanks, Amanda), Turtle gets a girl and Drama is a star.

Weird times for the fab four.
 
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linotype said:
As a wise poster a few weeks ago said, this show is at its best when it's giving you that peek behind the curtain and a view of the wrangling and maneuvering in the motion picture industry. Tonight's episode was proof. Curious to see how Vince and E come up with the coin to finance this. (How they haven't spent themselves into debt already amazes me.)

Someone was saying that one of the themes of this season would be the guys having money problems. Guess Vince will be making some more commercials.
 
Stupid said:
anyone else note the parallel of Tony Soprano and Johnny Drama ending their respective episodes standing atop a western crag at dawn and shouting into the void?

did HBO get the writers together or was it just serendipitous?
How about a crow, like the one that spooked Moltisanti when he got his button, crashing through the window into Drama's eggs?
 
Why pay $5 mil for a script about Pablo Escobar? Why not just commission another script? No one owns the rights to the story, just the script.
 
heyabbott said:
Why pay $5 mil for a script about Pablo Escobar? Why not just commission another script? No one owns the rights to the story, just the script.
Maybe Mamet wrote it. :)
 
heyabbott said:
Why pay $5 mil for a script about Pablo Escobar? Why not just commission another script? No one owns the rights to the story, just the script.

Nor would anyone pay anywhere close to $5m for a script which is in turnaround for the second time and just came off of a failed production?
 
Simon-Exactly! I forgot about that but when it happened, I pointed out to my wife that the crow on the ledge spooked Moltisanti when he got made.
 
Dumb question - Why wouldn't somebody own the rights to the story as well as the script? Because Escobar is a public figure?

I have a kooky friend in L.A. who teaches interpretive dance to the inmates at L.A. County Juvenile Hall. One of the big studios bought the rights to her story -- paid her a ton of $$$. Madonna was in talks to play her, but it all broke down, and now it's questionable whether the movie will ever get made.

There was never any script, but I do know that nobody could make a movie about her story after that payment.
 
Lugnuts said:
Dumb question - Why wouldn't somebody own the rights to the story as well as the script? Because Escobar is a public figure?

I have a kooky friend in L.A. who teaches interpretive dance to the inmates at L.A. County Juvenile Hall. One of the big studios bought the rights to her story -- paid her a ton of $$$. Madonna was in talks to play her, but it all broke down, and now it's questionable whether the movie will ever get made.

There was never any script, but I do know that nobody could make a movie about her story after that payment.

the question of whether you own the rights to your life story is kind of iffy. in california you do own the rights to your life story. other states differ. as i understand it, the simple answer is that if a moviemaker were to change a few details - make you taller, fatter, shorter, richer, poorer, add a few things that didn't really happen, etc. - it's no longer based on you.
 
I see. But somebody up there asked why Vince wouldn't just commission another script.

If Entourage were real life, would Vince be able to commission another script?
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
... a pulsating, tremendous episode.

... another tremendous older character actor dredged up in Michael Lerner (Barton Fink)

Barton Fink? Gracious, at least say Eight Men Out.
 
Lugnuts said:
Dumb question - Why wouldn't somebody own the rights to the story as well as the script? Because Escobar is a public figure?

I have a kooky friend in L.A. who teaches interpretive dance to the inmates at L.A. County Juvenile Hall. One of the big studios bought the rights to her story -- paid her a ton of $$$. Madonna was in talks to play her, but it all broke down, and now it's questionable whether the movie will ever get made.

There was never any script, but I do know that nobody could make a movie about her story after that payment.

No offense Lugz, but my first reaction to your post was to be very happy that movie was never made. (Sorry, my wife's taste is so funky, it's hard to tell what crap I'll get dragged to in payment for her tagging along to see my sci-fi/action stuff).
 
lantaur said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
... a pulsating, tremendous episode.

... another tremendous older character actor dredged up in Michael Lerner (Barton Fink)

Barton Fink? Gracious, at least say Eight Men Out.
"I was the fat kid they wouldn't let play. 'Sit down, fat boy'. That's what they'd say 'Sit down, maybe you'll learn something.' Well, I learned something alright. Pretty soon, I owned the game, and those guys I grew up with come to me with their hats in their hands."

Also loved the Apocalypse Now references. All all-around great episode.
 
outofplace said:
No offense Lugz, but my first reaction to your post was to be very happy that movie was never made. (Sorry, my wife's taste is so funky, it's hard to tell what crap I'll get dragged to in payment for her tagging along to see my sci-fi/action stuff).

No offense taken, but it's not crap. The woman's name is Kim Geldart (aka "Kim G" and "Sukha"), and one day she walked up to L.A. County Juvenile Hall ("The Juve") and asked if she could teach the kids a class-- for free. These kids were in the worst of the worst gangs, some were incarcerated for murder, etc. But Kim wanted to work with them when nobody else really gave a ****.

I understand why Hollywood wouldn't be in a hurry to do this kind of film because it's been done before (Stand By Me, Dangerous Minds, etc. etc. ), and often it's been done poorly. But Kim is truly a unique personality (a nut above all nuts), and this is a great story. After she finally got her project on steady ground at the Juve, she started working with incarcerated men. Imagine this kooky lady teaching convicted murderers yoga and interpretive dance. The LA Times did a great story on her awhile back.
 

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