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Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.
 
Stitch said:
Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.

Have you taken said concerns to your boss before or is this a new problem?

If you're on any kind of a football beat, I don't imagine things will improve once football tab season gives way to real football. Better to make your concerns know now than soldier on and suffer a breakdown -- physical, mental or otherwise -- at a particularly inconvenient moment.

Not sure how much help I can offer otherwise. Would you be willing to share specifics via PM?
 
Stitch, I died on that hill a couple of times while serving in dramatically different roles in the biz.

It's a plausible route to consider taking in a thriving economy and while the journalism industry is going gangbusters. Now ain't the time.

I'd dare say that almost every business these days has some of the issues you're describing. It's obvious that a few people were still at their two-hour lunches when the "we have to do less with more" memo got circulated.

Those are the assholes who deserve to die a painful death more so than anyone else. Their top-tier enablers -- the bosses who look the other way -- run a close second.

The rest of us -- the guys and gals who cram 60 hours or work into a 40-hour pay period to make up for the slackers -- deserve a bit of he blame as well, but that's no reason to volunteer for the wrong side of the firing squad.

Don't do it man. Just take a step back, take a deep breath and come up with a Plan B.
 
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.

Have you taken said concerns to your boss before or is this a new problem?

If you're on any kind of a football beat, I don't imagine things will improve once football tab season gives way to real football. Better to make your concerns know now than soldier on and suffer a breakdown -- physical, mental or otherwise -- at a particularly inconvenient moment.

Not sure how much help I can offer otherwise. Would you be willing to share specifics via PM?

It's an ongoing problem and the "we'll just see approach" isn't going to cut it, especially in the fall.
 
Stich, sounds like we're in the same situation and I'm working on a Plan B. I wish you luck, though.
 
Stitch said:
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.

Have you taken said concerns to your boss before or is this a new problem?

If you're on any kind of a football beat, I don't imagine things will improve once football tab season gives way to real football. Better to make your concerns know now than soldier on and suffer a breakdown -- physical, mental or otherwise -- at a particularly inconvenient moment.

Not sure how much help I can offer otherwise. Would you be willing to share specifics via PM?

It's an ongoing problem and the "we'll just see approach" isn't going to cut it, especially in the fall.

Is said boss saying "we'll just see"? And again, have you made known your unhappiness with the imbalance?

If you have, then perhaps you need to take your complaint up the chain of command (assuming that's possible and won't leave you persona non grata in your section). You don't need to point fingers at those doing less work -- not right away, at least -- but calmly lay out why the current workload is untenable, why it is likely to get worse as fall sports begin and how the problem can best be remedied.

As pressmurphy said, downing tools and walking away isn't really advisable at this point. Only after you've exhausted all diplomatic means, and even then only if you think your long-term health is under threat, is such drastic action an option.

I'm sorry you're under such stress, Stitch, and wish I could do more to help.
 
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TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.

Have you taken said concerns to your boss before or is this a new problem?

If you're on any kind of a football beat, I don't imagine things will improve once football tab season gives way to real football. Better to make your concerns know now than soldier on and suffer a breakdown -- physical, mental or otherwise -- at a particularly inconvenient moment.

Not sure how much help I can offer otherwise. Would you be willing to share specifics via PM?

It's an ongoing problem and the "we'll just see approach" isn't going to cut it, especially in the fall.

Is said boss saying "we'll just see"? And again, have you made known your unhappiness with the imbalance?

If you have, then perhaps you need to take your complaint up the chain of command (assuming that's possible and won't leave you persona non grata in your section). You don't need to point fingers at those doing less work -- not right away, at least -- but calmly lay out why the current workload is untenable, why it is likely to get worse as fall sports begin and how the problem can best be remedied.

As pressmurphy said, downing tools and walking away isn't really advisable at this point. Only after you've exhausted all diplomatic means, and even then only if you think your long-term health is under threat, is such drastic action an option.

I'm sorry you're under such stress, Stitch, and wish I could do more to help.

I didn't blindside anyone. It's an issue that has been brought up several times to no avail. Going up the chain won't help much either.

I'm lucky I live in an where I can get a non-newspaper job rather quickly if I do get canned to pay the bills.
 
I've thought about it, but what is it really going to accomplish?
Schieza and I do more work than anyone at our company and it's not even close. Our editors ***** about not enough time to do their work, which makes me laugh.
We'll do 10-12 stories for our weeklies, plus take our own photos, and do 12-15 pages of layout. The editors? Maybe 3 stories a week and 8-10 pages of layout.
 
Stitch said:
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.

Have you taken said concerns to your boss before or is this a new problem?

If you're on any kind of a football beat, I don't imagine things will improve once football tab season gives way to real football. Better to make your concerns know now than soldier on and suffer a breakdown -- physical, mental or otherwise -- at a particularly inconvenient moment.

Not sure how much help I can offer otherwise. Would you be willing to share specifics via PM?

It's an ongoing problem and the "we'll just see approach" isn't going to cut it, especially in the fall.

Is said boss saying "we'll just see"? And again, have you made known your unhappiness with the imbalance?

If you have, then perhaps you need to take your complaint up the chain of command (assuming that's possible and won't leave you persona non grata in your section). You don't need to point fingers at those doing less work -- not right away, at least -- but calmly lay out why the current workload is untenable, why it is likely to get worse as fall sports begin and how the problem can best be remedied.

As pressmurphy said, downing tools and walking away isn't really advisable at this point. Only after you've exhausted all diplomatic means, and even then only if you think your long-term health is under threat, is such drastic action an option.

I'm sorry you're under such stress, Stitch, and wish I could do more to help.

I didn't blindside anyone. It's an issue that has been brought up several times to no avail. Going up the chain won't help much either.

I'm lucky I live in an where I can get a non-newspaper job rather quickly if I do get canned to pay the bills.

Start looking. When you get an interview, go talk to your boss. I wouldn't deliver an ultimatum, but as Trooperbari suggested, simply lay out your case. If you don't get a firm answer, then continue looking and take another job.

There are two reasons I'm making this suggestion: 1.) Nobody will take care of you but you. Period. If you're unhappy with your situation, it's up to you to change it. 2.) There are so many people out of work in this business, they can replace you with a warm body in a heartbeat. Nobody is irreplaceable. It's harsh, but dem's da berries.

One other note. Assuming you get interviews for other jobs, refrain from playing the victim.
 
"Now listen to me, all of you. You are all condemned men. We keep you alive to serve this ship. So row well, and live."
 
WBarnhouse said:
"Now listen to me, all of you. You are all condemned men. We keep you alive to serve this ship. So row well, and live."

That's a great quote but admittedly depressing. Stitch depending on your age it's ride it out or seriously consider a new field.
 
Do it diplomatically, but do it nonetheless. A lot of times, bosses may not realize you're overloaded. You should never, ever, ever work more than 40 hours if you aren't in a salaried position. Your boss probably means no harm. He just relies on you and doesn't even realize he's overloading you.

A lot of editors want to know if their people are being overworked. If they don't know, then they can't ask for more help from above - like overtime or extra staffing.

If I were a sports editor, I'd be pissed if someone was working 60 hours a week and not letting me know about it. It hurts the section.
 
Every time I feel that way, I buy a lottery ticket. It gives me a couple days to walk around planning my glorious escape from working ever again, and I've usually cooled down by the time the drawing ruins my fantasy.
 
Everytime we have a thread like this, I realize how much I like my job and appreciate my boss.
 
agreed with spirited...

I hit this point last spring when I realized replacing my final full-time writer with a part-timer was going to mean either I go crazy or we make some changes in coverage. I came up with a game plan, presented it and it was welcomed with enthusiasm from above. Made a few similar suggestions a couple weeks ago, as we head into the prep season and got the same enthusiastic reception. My place gets it...cutting staff doesn't mean working for free, it means changing how you do things to make it work for all sides.

Sadly many shops don't carry that mindset.

One bit of advice, go in with some ideas, present a clear game plan for moving forward, and be flexible. Rushing into the office with a chip on your shoulder isn't going to accomplish anything except putting everyone in a sour mood.
 
I just had one of those moments. Sat at the dining room table with my head on the placemat and my arms spread out on either side. Desperately wanted to say I was done.

But the first response is right: now is not the time. Not unless you're really going to be happier in something else you've already got lined up.

Plus, think of all the people in the world who have jobs that really suck. Coal miners, for example.
 
One other idea, and I'm completely serious: If your company has an employee assistance program, look into it. Get a physical exam and tell the doctor you are worried about the toll stress is taking on you. If there are warning signs, you might be able to get a referral to a mental health professional who can help you sort through any issues. If it's severe, you might even get a physician's directive to stay away from work temporarily, and I guarantee the bosses would see how much work really you do -- and how unreasonable the expectations are -- by your absence.

A job isn't supposed to kill you. If it is, then something needs to be fixed. Start by controlling whatever you can control and, for most of us, that means our personal well-being. Good luck.
 
reformedhack said:
One other idea, and I'm completely serious: If your company has an employee assistance program, look into it. Get a physical exam and tell the doctor you are worried about the toll stress is taking on you. If there are warning signs, you might be able to get a referral to a mental health professional who can help you sort through any issues. If it's severe, you might even get a physician's directive to stay away from work temporarily, and I guarantee the bosses would see how much work really you do -- and how unreasonable the expectations are -- by your absence.

A job isn't supposed to kill you. If it is, then something needs to be fixed. Start by controlling whatever you can control and, for most of us, that means our personal well-being. Good luck.


You can find an unethical doctor who will falsify a mental breakdown diagnosis, but he helps if you wet yourself in the middle of the newsroom. That is six figures guaranteed. Plus you don't have to cover any ****ty high school football games.
I want a finder's fee. Man's gotta eat, right?
 
novelist_wannabe said:
Stitch said:
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
TrooperBari said:
Stitch said:
Anyone tell their boss they just couldn't handle the workload anymore, especially if there are others at the paper who should be doing more.

I don't want to get into specifics, but there has to be a point where a lot of us would say fire me if you have to, but I won't do it.

Have you taken said concerns to your boss before or is this a new problem?

If you're on any kind of a football beat, I don't imagine things will improve once football tab season gives way to real football. Better to make your concerns know now than soldier on and suffer a breakdown -- physical, mental or otherwise -- at a particularly inconvenient moment.

Not sure how much help I can offer otherwise. Would you be willing to share specifics via PM?

It's an ongoing problem and the "we'll just see approach" isn't going to cut it, especially in the fall.

Is said boss saying "we'll just see"? And again, have you made known your unhappiness with the imbalance?

If you have, then perhaps you need to take your complaint up the chain of command (assuming that's possible and won't leave you persona non grata in your section). You don't need to point fingers at those doing less work -- not right away, at least -- but calmly lay out why the current workload is untenable, why it is likely to get worse as fall sports begin and how the problem can best be remedied.

As pressmurphy said, downing tools and walking away isn't really advisable at this point. Only after you've exhausted all diplomatic means, and even then only if you think your long-term health is under threat, is such drastic action an option.

I'm sorry you're under such stress, Stitch, and wish I could do more to help.

I didn't blindside anyone. It's an issue that has been brought up several times to no avail. Going up the chain won't help much either.

I'm lucky I live in an where I can get a non-newspaper job rather quickly if I do get canned to pay the bills.

Start looking. When you get an interview, go talk to your boss. I wouldn't deliver an ultimatum, but as Trooperbari suggested, simply lay out your case. If you don't get a firm answer, then continue looking and take another job.

There are two reasons I'm making this suggestion: 1.) Nobody will take care of you but you. Period. If you're unhappy with your situation, it's up to you to change it. 2.) There are so many people out of work in this business, they can replace you with a warm body in a heartbeat. Nobody is irreplaceable. It's harsh, but dem's da berries.

One other note. Assuming you get interviews for other jobs, refrain from playing the victim.

It's always good to be looking for jobs. If you are as hard of a worker as you say you are, you can get a job elsewhere. Maybe it won't be as fun as sports writing, but it will likely pay more.
 
I'd dare say that almost every business these days has some of the issues you're describing. It's obvious that a few people were still at their two-hour lunches when the "we have to do less with more" memo got circulated.

Those are the assholes who deserve to die a painful death more so than anyone else. Their top-tier enablers -- the bosses who look the other way -- run a close second.

You can probably say that about any newspaper.
 

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