printdust said:Now, this one IS GETTING POLITICAL.....
And it doesn't need to be. C'mon, play nice.
printdust said:Now, this one IS GETTING POLITICAL.....
Bubbler said:If Germans are pre-ordained to kill, what about Turks who killed Armenians? Serbs, Croats and Bosnians who killed each other in the 40s and 90s? Russians who killed every ethnic group under the sun, including their own? Japanese who systematically killed Chinese? English who mowed down Indians in the Amritsar Massacre? French who killed Algerians in the 50s and 60s? Americans who systematically wiped native Americans in the 1800s?
Each of these terrible incidents have their own individual causes. And yes, as mentioned there ARE wingnuts in each of those ethnic groups, but it doesn't mean you paint them all with a broad brush.
Not saying I support or defend what we did on our soil, but don't you think it was more fear-based than race-based for most who debated it? Yeah, I wonder why Germans weren't selected because the Reich certainly had the tools to ID Jews amongst them. Did that say more about our intelligence ineptitude than race? I don't know that answer, I'm just asking for discussion's sake.Crash said:Just curious: how aware was the average American of Japanese internment camps in the early 40s? Surely Americans on the Pacific coast had to realize that Japanese-Americans were disappearing.
Obviously the internment camps weren't the same as concentration camps in Germany, Poland, etc., but I'm asking sincerely: were internment camps common knowledge at the time?
printdust said:Not saying I support or defend what we did on our soil, but don't you think it was more fear-based than race-based for most who debated it? Yeah, I wonder why Germans weren't selected because the Reich certainly had the tools to ID Jews amongst them. Did that say more about our intelligence ineptitude than race? I don't know that answer, I'm just asking for discussion's sake.Crash said:Just curious: how aware was the average American of Japanese internment camps in the early 40s? Surely Americans on the Pacific coast had to realize that Japanese-Americans were disappearing.
Obviously the internment camps weren't the same as concentration camps in Germany, Poland, etc., but I'm asking sincerely: were internment camps common knowledge at the time?
Even where it was race-based, or ethnic-based, it certainly wouldn't be the first war in that category.
Baron Scicluna said:I'd say it was pretty well known:
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Besides that, the Santa Anita Racetrack was used as a camp to intern the Japanese. People who went to the track to place some bets were in for a pretty big surprise.
Ben_Hecht said:Baron Scicluna said:I'd say it was pretty well known:
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Besides that, the Santa Anita Racetrack was used as a camp to intern the Japanese. People who went to the track to place some bets were in for a pretty big surprise.
They used Anita? I know they used Tanforan racetrack, up near Frisco, where the majority of California
Japanese were located . . .
printdust said:Turks kill, Germans kill, Ancient Romans killed. But Muslims don't kill. We kill threads that even speaketh about it. And the attack in Chechnya didn't happen. We can talk "Fuhrer" because Nazis are by liberals associated with Republicans. But we'll defend those who kill in Allah's name because Allah evidently is the general of the Democratic Party. Does anyone see the double-standard in popping threads?
Azrael said:What's the one thing all these closed threads have in common?
printdust said:Ignorance is bliss, isn't it Bubbler?
Chechnya was attacked by terrorists yesterday. What part of that do you fail to understand or choose to defend?
Bubbler said:printdust said:Ignorance is bliss, isn't it Bubbler?
Chechnya was attacked by terrorists yesterday. What part of that do you fail to understand or choose to defend?
I count it as a badge of honor that I don't "understand" things the way you do.
printdust said:Bubbler said:printdust said:Ignorance is bliss, isn't it Bubbler?
Chechnya was attacked by terrorists yesterday. What part of that do you fail to understand or choose to defend?
I count it as a badge of honor that I don't "understand" things the way you do.
Which is why you'll be scratching your head confoundedly in mere weeks.