2 points?! 2 damn Points?!

[dixiehack]

Depends. Were there free tacos for everyone at stake?

 

[EStreetJoe]

So, basically, Bloomington South was now playing a small charter school drawing on kids who hadn't played competitive basketball before.

There's always an explanation like this when these scores arise. But the question is why do these games remain on the schedule? Obviously both sides must have seen this coming.

I don't necessarily fault the kids for winning by 105, but I do question the judgment of those who allow such colossal mismatches to be played.

That's the first thing I thought. When the spokesman of the high school association said "That's not what we want to see," well, isn't that a reflection of the high school association, which allows these games to be played?

But you can't hold a whole high school association responsible for the behavior of a few misguided individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole high school sports association system? And if the whole system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Gator - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America.
I hope I didn't need to put that in blue type

 

[zagoshe]

WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH -- how bout this STOP THEM AND STOP CRYING

 

[KYSportsWriter]

I guess that's a question I would ask the winning coach. What was accomplished by winning 107-2? I mean, they couldn't do a little Gene Hackman? "Four passes!" Did the winning coach empty the bench? You don't want to take away the chance for the kids to play, and when the scrubs get in, you want them to play. But still, there are ways to avoid scores that bad.

According to the article, the winning team only has/had nine players.

 

[e_bowker]

We have a girls' team in our area that's lost 90-something straight district and region games. That team is why I'm glad the KHSAA implemented a 35-point running clock this season.

There's one high school clock operator who is a god in my eyes. The team I mentioned earlier that got shut out played at his school and would routinely get beat by 40 or 50 points. Once it was out of hand and everyone agreed to run the clock, he did them one better. The operating system was an old dial-style control board, so once or twice per quarter he'd slyly take an extra minute off by resetting it on the fly.
Six minutes left became five. Three minutes left became two. All while the clock was running, so unless you were paying close attention no one noticed it. And since it was obvious the losing team couldn't score 30 points, much less make up a 30-point deficit, no one cared.
There was one blowout where, thanks to his trickery, a running clock and an agreement by both coaches to treat halftime like a two-minute quarter break, we were finished in about 35 minutes.

 

[crimsonace]

In Indiana, you don't have the option to take your team off the floor. There is no running clock rule, and it is considered a SERIOUS violation of IHSAA bylaws to quit a game early.

As Bob Cook mentioned above, Arlington was taken over by the state and turned over to a charter school operator earlier this year, and they've had a respectable girls hoops program for quite some time -- until the state takeover. Now, they're a charter school team that plays like one.

My guess is, the AD simply filled the schedule, and the opponents thought they were scheduling Arlington teams from previous years, which were usually at least semi-competitive. The charter school company running the place bundled the head football, head boys basketball and AD jobs together. Scheduling is an art, especially when you only have 20 games to work with. I know their schedule was a bit short this past year, so they're often picking up a game or two to fill it out.

I'll also note that when I saw them play earlier this year, they were down 26-0 after a quarter and 41-5 at halftime -- and didn't even attempt a shot until midway through the second quarter. The team that beat them (by 60 points that night) lost to a team from BHSS's conference seven nights earlier by 60, and starts four freshmen and a sophomore -- and is 1-6 right now.

 

[Yodel]

We had a 107-3 last year.

 

[Tarheel316]

We have a girls' team in our area that's lost 90-something straight district and region games. That team is why I'm glad the KHSAA implemented a 35-point running clock this season.

Sure wish we had that rule in North Carolina.

 

[dixiehack]

I don't care how pitiful you are, if your team puts in effort and is fully ambulatory you can keep it closer than 107-2. At that point I'd consider denying them the PE credits they are getting for playing a sport.

Being serious for a moment, there should be a special division for teams that know they are non-competitive and agree to skip postseason play. Every state usually has at least 8-10 of these charity cases, usually the same schools in most sports.

 

[Point of Order]

Being waterboarded > women's basketball.

Lower the goal to 8 feet.

 

[EStreetJoe]

Being waterboarded > women's basketball.

Lower the goal to 8 feet.

In 1988-89 a local sportscaster I was talking to said "Watching women's basketball is like watching two white guys box"
Disagreed with him then, disagree with him now.

 

[fossywriter8]

In 1998-99, a local girls team lost two games by scores of 118-13 and 111-9. They were both conference games.
The team that won 111-9 went on to win the state small school title and topped 100 points five times that year (including in the district semifinals) and 90 three times.

 

[zagoshe]

Being waterboarded > women's basketball.

Lower the goal to 8 feet.

I disagree, too, -- I've seen plenty of good boxing matches between two white guys.

In 1988-89 a local sportscaster I was talking to said "Watching women's basketball is like watching two white guys box"
Disagreed with him then, disagree with him now.

 

[ColdCat]

so I cover girls basketball tonight and show up in the 3rd quarter of the JV to find that it's 35-0. At one point a girl on the losing team grabs an offensive rebound off a missed free throw and starts a fast break the wrong way, not knowing why everyone was yelling at her until she crossed midcourt for the over-and-back call.
The varsity was 60-4.
The losing team is a charter school that went 12-11 last year playing other charter schools so they decided to play tougher teams this year, though why they wanted to play a school with three times the enrollment they have is a mystery. The sad thing is the school that beat them, the one we cover regularly, is 3-3. The team the charter school girls play next is 5-1 and has an even larger enrollment. That one could easily be 107-2.

 

[Starman]

These ****ing charter schools are a complete joke in just about every way. We have maybe a half dozen in our coverage area. Probably we have 25 because every February and March we get a flurry of phone calls from irate mothers screaming "my little boy plays for Sweet Jumpin Jeezus Charter Academy of Excellence and Awesomeness and they are 16-2, why don't you cover their games?"

Then they get in the state tournament. First game, Sweet Jumpin Jeezus Charter Academy plays Hooterville High School, 6-14 during the season in a bad class D league. Hooterville wins 78-23.

One thing I know for damn sure. If I was a coach in a public high school playing one of these paper-bag charter schools, I'd turn the ****in' guns on 'em. Press 32 minutes buzzer to buzzer. Score 200 points if I could. Hey, charter-boy, if you wanted to learn how to play real basketball, you should have come to Hooterville High and played for me.

 

[Starman]

The flipside of the pathetic-horrible-awful charter schools who get ass-blasted 107-2, of course, are the fly-by-night charter schools which are basically thrown up as fronts for street agents to run their all-star semipro AAU teams.

We have a few of them around too.

 

[dixiehack]

Took a box once for a team (freshman girls I think) that finished with two points. The worst part was that they had a tie for leading scorer.

 

[Sam Mills 51]

Hmm ... I recall taking a 104-5 call-in once. Thing is, I had covered that winning team and girls' basketball coach. They were pretty regular participants on state championship weekend. A class act and still is. Not the sort who would make an overmatched situation worse.

OTOH, I once covered a game almost as bad years before. A 0-for girls' team against one that won a lot more than it didn't. Winning team full-court pressed for three quarters when it was obvious the 0-for team was completely done (and the game was over in the first 2-4 minutes). Not surprised ... I covered the winning team 2-3 times and the coach was pretty full of himself and not smart enough to realize that his team was getting nothing out of this for use down the road. Save it for the next couple of practices.

 

[Beef03]

So if losing team is getting whipped 107-2 while playing a 2-3 press, when does losing coach realize that's not working and maybe switch it up a bit? Still probably don't beat them, but maybe you keep them under triple digits. And yes, winning team should have done something to slow the onslaught, everyone touches the ball before a shot, something.

Wwe don't have the charter schools where I am so Ihave noidea about the ins and outs of them, but it is pretty clear they should not be playing the public schools if this kind of thing happens on a regular basis, especially in non-conference or exhibition play. If you're that hard up for action, you probably would get more out of playing your JV team.

And high school girls basketball maybe the worst thing in the world to cover, especially when you have a good team up against a team that can barely dribble the ball past half court or is filled with girls that just don't give a **** and joined because their friend plays and they needed to fill out a roster. Happens far too often. Almost prefer having toe nails pulled.

 

[HanSenSE]

We had a 103-3 game a few years ago.

Same team is so far beyond its league competition it's ridiculous. Still, we cover the rivalry games, may not show up to some until halftime since we can also cover (gasp!) soccer that night, and, yes, we'll go to some just to see how ugly it'll be.