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Re: 2011 Pro Wrestling Thread
« Reply #1500 on: April 25, 2011, 11:29:43 PM »
I would easily see Cena beating Miz and Alberto beating Christian, and then problem solved.

And if so, that's a travesty on both fronts.

That would mean both belts are on Raw. That doesn't work.

Then you unify them, have an undisputed champion and voila! ;)

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« Reply #1501 on: April 26, 2011, 04:20:21 AM »
I would easily see Cena beating Miz and Alberto beating Christian, and then problem solved.

And if so, that's a travesty on both fronts.

That would mean both belts are on Raw. That doesn't work.

It happened one other time, but it was real briefly (a couple of weeks).

I seem to recall Batista being one of the champions, although I could be wrong.
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« Reply #1502 on: April 26, 2011, 04:26:13 AM »
If y'all want to see something interesting, check this out. It's an interview with Mark Henry during the show - you can hear Big Show being drafted in the background - where Henry talks about his weight loss and starts crying. I can't entirely figure it out, to be honest.

http://vids.wwe.com/11856/wwecom-exclusive-mark-henry-reac

Maybe there was something personal behind his weight loss, like (just speculating here) maybe a friend or relative was overweight and had health issues, or something like that? Who knows?

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« Reply #1503 on: April 26, 2011, 04:39:49 AM »
Batista's MMA deal has fallen through. Does he come back, and as a face or a heel?

Jericho's likely back on Raw instead of SD to cash in on his DWTS push, right?
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« Reply #1504 on: April 26, 2011, 05:19:44 AM »
Not sure if Batista will come back to wrestling, though if he's smart, he'd do so while his name still means something. He's 42 and his days as a credible performer, be it wrestling or MMA, are limited.

If Jericho returns as a face, Raw would be the logical place for him since the gap between No. 1 face (Cena) and No. 2 face (Morrison? Mysterio? Big Show?) is pretty wide. If he's back as a heel, Smackdown needs helps on that side (is Cody Rhodes their top heel now?)
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« Reply #1505 on: April 26, 2011, 08:43:34 AM »
I thought Batista left as a really good and somewhat believable heel performer (I was actually suprised because I never really thought of him as doing anything well), so I think it's possible for him to return and rely on somethign other than his in-ring capabilities.

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« Reply #1506 on: April 26, 2011, 09:14:38 AM »
The 'draft' continues:

Swagger to Raw, so this awful Michael Cole/Lawler storyline continues.
Daniel Bryan to SD. Hope he gets a better push there.
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« Reply #1507 on: April 26, 2011, 10:34:13 AM »
The 'draft' continues:

Swagger to Raw, so this awful Michael Cole/Lawler storyline continues.
Daniel Bryan to SD. Hope he gets a better push there.

Glad to see Bryan get a chance. Maybe he can become the No. 3 babyface behind Orton and Christian, or maybe a top heel

Swagger to Raw? Whoop de damn do. Didn't he get drafted to Raw, like, last year, or something?
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« Reply #1508 on: April 26, 2011, 10:47:51 AM »
What's funny is that a lot of the names moving in the supplimental draft didn't really have much of a connection to the other brand anyway. JTG to Raw? Yoshi Tatsu to Smackdown? When was the last time either was on that show? They'll still be relegated to Superstars (assuming the Sword of Future Endeavors doesn't drop on them), except they'll be taping matches on Monday instead of Tuesday, or vice versa.

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« Reply #1509 on: April 26, 2011, 11:59:13 AM »
Damn, the only reason I watched Raw was to catch a glimpse of Yoshi Tatsu. My Monday nights just opened up.
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« Reply #1510 on: April 26, 2011, 12:00:17 PM »
Kofi, McIntyre and Kelly Kelly also to Raw. Mmmm...Kelly Kelly.

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« Reply #1511 on: April 26, 2011, 12:02:36 PM »
Also, DiBiase and Regal to SD. Anyone else hope this actually results in either of them getting decent work?

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« Reply #1512 on: April 26, 2011, 12:05:45 PM »
Also, DiBiase and Regal to SD. Anyone else hope this actually results in either of them getting decent work?

This can be a good opportunity for DiBiase to shine, if he's given the chance. Regal is basically retired, so they pretty much will just use him as roster filler.
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« Reply #1513 on: April 26, 2011, 12:08:06 PM »
No doubt that was the most predictable double-draft move in WWE history.  And every time they do something stupid with Cena, I dislike him less.

Seeing Jim Ross in the ring, a man who has had a stroke, is beyond ridiculous.  My wife was saying "I'm glad he's wearing a Sooners jersey instead of a tight." Well, my thinking is similar when discussing Jerry Lawler.  Still, Michael Cole was pretty funny in the early going of this episode.  I can't say that every week.

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« Reply #1514 on: April 26, 2011, 12:09:51 PM »
I think they might be grooming Regal to be a color commentator, because he's already doing it for NXT and would be an upgrade from Booker T on Smackdown.

DiBiase might benefit the most from this move, or else he'll be getting cut soon. He needs a few months to rehab and possibly reinvent his character. Doing a 21st Century Million Dollar Man wasn't the worst gimmick for him, except that he doesn't have an eighth the charisma of his dad.

The brand dilution doesn't help with making the draft seem like a big deal, but the other thing is with only two brands, it's not like there's any truly big moves to make outside of Cena to Smackdown. OMG KOFI KINGSTON IS ON RAW except oh yeah, he was on Raw until he got drafted to Smackdown last year. You hang around enough, you'll jump brands multiple times. How many have stayed on one brand exlusively? Probably not that many, since Alberto Del Rio and Daniel Bryan have already had a switch.
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« Reply #1515 on: April 26, 2011, 01:52:26 PM »
Sheamus to SD. Now US and IC champs on same show, yes?

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« Reply #1516 on: April 26, 2011, 02:06:15 PM »
Sheamus to SD. Now US and IC champs on same show, yes?

So predictable once McIntyre was moved to Raw. They sound too much alike!

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« Reply #1517 on: April 26, 2011, 02:16:52 PM »
Seeing Jim Ross in the ring, a man who has had a stroke, is beyond ridiculous.  My wife was saying "I'm glad he's wearing a Sooners jersey instead of a tight." Well, my thinking is similar when discussing Jerry Lawler.  Still, Michael Cole was pretty funny in the early going of this episode.  I can't say that every week.

I don't think Ross ever had a stroke. He has Bell's palsy, which is what caused his facial paralysis.
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Re: 2011 Pro Wrestling Thread
« Reply #1518 on: April 26, 2011, 02:27:21 PM »
The double draft for Cena was stupid. This is the kind of crap that makes me advocate for ending the brand extension.

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« Reply #1519 on: April 26, 2011, 02:41:03 PM »
Moving Alex Riley to Smackdown sounds foolish on the surface, but I think he's got the potential and makeup to be a main event-caliber performer in the next few years. Freeing him from being Alfie to The Miz's Spike puts the spotlight on him and could set the seeds for a possible teacher v. student feud down the road.

Wouldn't be shocked if Batista returned later this year in a heel role. How cool would it be in (humor me for a moment) if they got serious about tag teams and paired Batista with Mason Ryan? Of course, that requires WWE using an elusive trait called "creativity" to pull this off.

Not hoping for it, but would like to see how WWE would fare in a scenario where Cena was legitimately out for 6-12 months and Jericho chose not to return. No Trips, Cena, Jericho or Undertaker....hey, Vince, that means you'd have be (wait for it) creative.

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« Reply #1520 on: April 26, 2011, 02:44:52 PM »
I presume Sheamus or Wade Barrett will lose their title to a Raw wrestler in a hastily-arranged match at Extreme Rules (the moves don't take effect until after the PPV).

Final count:

RAW: Rey Mysterio, Big Show, Alberto Del Rio, Jack Swagger, Kelly Kelly, JTG, Drew McIntyre, Curt Hawkins, Chris Masters, Kofi Kingston, Tyler Reks, Beth Phoenix

SMACKDOWN: Randy Orton, Mark Henry, Sin Cara, Daniel Bryan, Great Khali, Jimmy and Jey Uso, Alicia Fox, William Regal, Yoshi Tatsu, Natalya, Ted DiBiase, Tyson Kidd, Tamina, Alex Riley, Sheamus

Surprisingly, I'd say Smackdown came out ahead. Orton replaces Edge as lead face, Sheamus replaces Del Rio or Swagger as the No. 2 or 3 heel, Bryan gets a fresh start, Henry gets to refresh his character with a heel turn, Sin Cara gets to have his many botches edited out, DiBiase gets another chance and Riley might be the Cody Rhodes of this year's draft -- the young guy who uses the move to the B show to elevate himself.

Outside of Del Rio and Kingston (and maybe Swagger, depending on how things develop), Raw doesn't get that much. Mysterio is one knee injury or money dispute away from leaving, Big Show is who he is and that's not changing and McIntyre is too much of a wild card.

These moves almost assure that Christian is walking out of Extreme Rules with the title, unless they make an 11th-hour change to the match, perhaps adding one Smackdown's pickups such as Sheamus or (total longshot) Bryan.
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« Reply #1521 on: April 26, 2011, 02:54:24 PM »
Moving Alex Riley to Smackdown sounds foolish on the surface, but I think he's got the potential and makeup to be a main event-caliber performer in the next few years. Freeing him from being Alfie to The Miz's Spike puts the spotlight on him and could set the seeds for a possible teacher v. student feud down the road.

That's what I'm thinking. He can even get his own flunkie from NXT (Lucky Cannon?) to be his VP of Corporate Comminications. The move with the most potential.

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Wouldn't be shocked if Batista returned later this year in a heel role. How cool would it be in (humor me for a moment) if they got serious about tag teams and paired Batista with Mason Ryan? Of course, that requires WWE using an elusive trait called "creativity" to pull this off.

If creativity means matching Botchtista and super-green Mason Ryan, I'd say pass. Not that the tag team ranks can't use a boost or that the two shouldn't be in some sort of program together, but that'd be one awful team.

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Not hoping for it, but would like to see how WWE would fare in a scenario where Cena was legitimately out for 6-12 months and Jericho chose not to return. No Trips, Cena, Jericho or Undertaker....hey, Vince, that means you'd have be (wait for it) creative.

WWE is, if nothing else, surprisingly resilient to major departures, be it unexpected retirements, departures or in the case of Eddy Guerrero, death. Jericho is on his way back, Batista could be convinced to return and if nothing else, HHH could come back for another run. Plus the Miz and Del Rio are in the main event mix, Doplh Ziggler, Jack Swagger and Sheamus have been there and Cody Rhodes appears greenlighted for the upper card by the end of the year, so they'd find a way to make up for the loss of Cena. They've done it before.
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Re: 2011 Pro Wrestling Thread
« Reply #1522 on: April 26, 2011, 04:09:34 PM »
Moving Alex Riley to Smackdown sounds foolish on the surface, but I think he's got the potential and makeup to be a main event-caliber performer in the next few years. Freeing him from being Alfie to The Miz's Spike puts the spotlight on him and could set the seeds for a possible teacher v. student feud down the road.

Wouldn't be shocked if Batista returned later this year in a heel role. How cool would it be in (humor me for a moment) if they got serious about tag teams and paired Batista with Mason Ryan? Of course, that requires WWE using an elusive trait called "creativity" to pull this off.

Not hoping for it, but would like to see how WWE would fare in a scenario where Cena was legitimately out for 6-12 months and Jericho chose not to return. No Trips, Cena, Jericho or Undertaker....hey, Vince, that means you'd have be (wait for it) creative.

Didn't this happen roughly around the time Cena tore his triceps and was gone until the Rumble? I think we had Orton and HHH feuding for the title. At the same time, I think Undertaker, Kennedy and Edge were out with injuries, maybe, which meant Khali winning the title in a battle royal and then eventually dropping it in a feud with Batista. ick.

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« Reply #1523 on: April 26, 2011, 04:11:29 PM »
Re: Mister's spoiler, that would be huge if the WWE lost him. He is one of their few young, established bankable guys. If it wasn't for the fact that TNA already has too many talented guys they don't know what to do with, I'd argue that they should go after him. He has all the credibility of being a top WWE guy without the baggage of drug issues or injuries, like other WWE to TNA signings.

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« Reply #1524 on: April 26, 2011, 04:36:06 PM »
If they lose him, that's a huge blow.
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