You're Ryan Howard ...

[bigpern23]

Beef, I understand your point, but you're basically saying the ends justify the means. That's not an argument I agree with in regards to performance enhancers.

It pains me to say it – especially considering few things **** me off like the use of performance enhancers – but Sosa and McGuire did not do anythign that was considered illeagal at the time in baseball,

More importantly, it wasn't AGAINST THE LAW, either, assuming you are just talking about Androstenedione.

Bonds' stuff is.

I don't believe for a second that Andro was the only thing McGwire was on.

And again, for those of you who apparently haven't read this, Major League Baseball banned the use of "controlled substances." Steroids and other PEDs are "controlled substances." Therefore, Steroids and PEDs were banned by baseball. MLB was just dickless enough not to test for them. They had to be caught red-handed and, even then, I believe they would have only had to enter the league's substance abuse program.

And let's be honest here, if they weren't "illegal" and there was no problem with taking steroids, every player would have been shooting up as part of his pre-game routine. But they all knew it was cheating and that's why it was done behind closed doors. Defend it all you want. It was cheating.

 

[leo1]

we need to see pics of howard as a younger guy next to pics of him today just like the bonds side-by-side comparisons.

 

[Beef03]

Beef, I understand your point, but you're basically saying the ends justify the means. That's not an argument I agree with in regards to performance enhancers.

It pains me to say it ? especially considering few things **** me off like the use of performance enhancers ? but Sosa and McGuire did not do anythign that was considered illeagal at the time in baseball,

More importantly, it wasn't AGAINST THE LAW, either, assuming you are just talking about Androstenedione.

Bonds' stuff is.

I don't believe for a second that Andro was the only thing McGwire was on.

And again, for those of you who apparently haven't read this, Major League Baseball banned the use of "controlled substances." Steroids and other PEDs are "controlled substances." Therefore, Steroids and PEDs were banned by baseball. MLB was just dickless enough not to test for them. They had to be caught red-handed and, even then, I believe they would have only had to enter the league's substance abuse program.

And let's be honest here, if they weren't "illegal" and there was no problem with taking steroids, every player would have been shooting up as part of his pre-game routine. But they all knew it was cheating and that's why it was done behind closed doors. Defend it all you want. It was cheating.

I didn't say it wasn't cheating, it was just cheating within the rules at the time. Absolutely either way it was unethical which is why I think most players with a conscience didn't use andro.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

How is Howard still considered a rookie? Does that mean he's eligible to win a second straight ROY?

He's not a rookie, KY.

Why then do certain TV people need to say he's a rookie?

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Whitlock is Ryan Howard.

 

[Twoback]

No one on this earth should think Howard is on steroids. The guy is just a beast. He is a big man and was indeed tearing it up like this in the minor leagues. I saw him play a couple of years in the minors and he is that damn good. His numbers this year should come as a surprise to no one. Plus, he respects this game and its history. I would hope someone like that wouldn't tarnish baseball even more by taking steroids or HGH.

How do you know?