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Only a third through this but Water Valley's '05 team and coach reminds me of a New Hampshire team I covered in '03. Its semifinal loss (32-0) has remained with me and I think of it often because it wasn't a 32-0 game in the sense that you see that score and think, They got their ass kicked. Because they didn't.

Back to the story.
 
Songbird said:
Only a third through this but Water Valley's '05 team and coach reminds me of a New Hampshire team I covered in '03. Its semifinal loss (32-0) has remained with me and I think of it often because it wasn't a 32-0 game in the sense that you see that score and think, They got their ass kicked. Because they didn't.

Back to the story.

A lot of young writers might read this and draw the wrong lessons about putting themselves "in" the story. Goes with the territory.
 
HejiraHenry said:
Songbird said:
Only a third through this but Water Valley's '05 team and coach reminds me of a New Hampshire team I covered in '03. Its semifinal loss (32-0) has remained with me and I think of it often because it wasn't a 32-0 game in the sense that you see that score and think, They got their ass kicked. Because they didn't.

Back to the story.

A lot of young writers might read this and draw the wrong lessons about putting themselves "in" the story. Goes with the territory.

Songbird asked me to expand on that thought a bit. Might as well do it here.

This is a very personal piece of writing, infused with a sense of time and place that the writer knows well.
And it's a delicate balancing act, blending the game and the personal context. In the wrong hands I think the reader would say, "Quit talking about yourself and get back to the game." But it's seamless.

And it reflects the self awareness that comes with the passage of some time. If we asked him - and I will, one of these days - I'm sure he'd say this would have had a very different texture if written in 2007 or 2010.

I'm reminded of one of my favorite pieces of writing, William Nack's famous elegy to Secretariat. Nack is our guide to that story and we learn a lot about him along the way - but it's organic to the story. He's never in the way.

Same here. Browning never gets in the way of the story he's trying to tell. It's a part of him - yes, that's why he's compelled to tell us. But he's a part of it, too, by looking back and so vividly illuminating it for us.
 
With all due respect, the last thing I want to do is read 200 inches on a high school football game that's described in the first five grafs as mundane and completely ordinary.
 
MisterCreosote said:
With all due respect, the last thing I want to do is read 200 inches on a high school football game that's described in the first five grafs as mundane and completely ordinary.

You missed the point of story..... with all due respect.
 
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Boom_70 said:
MisterCreosote said:
With all due respect, the last thing I want to do is read 200 inches on a high school football game that's described in the first five grafs as mundane and completely ordinary.

You missed the point of story..... with all due respect.

I don't think he did.
I slogged through that story looking the nugget of enlightenment.
I want that 20 minutes back.
 
Yeah, I hung with it expecting a payoff that never came.

It's a self-indulgent that depends on the reader believing this game holds extra significance just because the writer tells him it does.
 
I'm sure it was very significant to the writer. And I'm happy for him.

But, I don't give a ****. You'll actually have to try pretty hard to get me to give a ****. You'll certainly have to try harder than this:

After sunset on a cool Friday evening in November 2005, two high school football teams played a game in Water Valley, Mississippi.

Unless you were a player, coach or spectator you know nothing of what transpired after the lights came on. Even if you were, it may hold no special place in your memory.

Not very long ago, a former newspaper reporter who was there told me, "Doesn't stick out." An assistant coach who stood on a sideline said, "The details are vague." A player who cried after time expired admits to hardly any recollection.
 
If Glenn Stout felt there was a nugget of excellence in there, there was a nugget of excellence in there.
 
Songbird said:
If Glenn Stout felt there was a nugget of excellence in there, there was a nugget of excellence in there.

I came away more in the Creosote/LTL camp. It was a well-written piece, but didn't connect for me. But it's a personal enough narrative that I wouldn't quibble with someone who did find that meaning.
 
LongTimeListener said:
Yeah, I hung with it expecting a payoff that never came.

It's a self-indulgent that depends on the reader believing this game holds extra significance just because the writer tells him it does.

This.
A narrative he destroys in his opening graphs and fails to rebuild.
I didn't get the feeling the game was special to the players or the fans. Why should I care about the writer?
 
Boom_70 said:
Songbird said:
Sounds like the holder wanted to be a hero.

Eric ?

The PAT holder. Wasn't he the one who bolted for the goal line after the snap?

Maybe it was someone else. So many people to keep up with after 175 inches.

But someone got rung up inches from the goal line on the PAT, which is why it stayed 14-13.
 
There's some good writing in here, but it never answers the question, "Why is this story?" I'm reminded of the episode of SportsNight where Jeremy puts together an eight-minute baseball highlight package and tries to defend it by saying there's a simple beauty in a routine groundout to short.

There can be beauty, depth, meaning in the routine, in the mundane, in the ordinary. But sometimes an unremarkable, albeit close, playoff game between two fair-to-middlin' teams is just that, and sometimes you're the only one who finds deeper meaning in it. Water Valley isn't the only team to have lost a game on what might have a bad snap, and William Browning isn't the only person to have gone through an existential crisis in his mid-20s.
 
I'll go ahead and say that there's nothing in the world I can envision happening that would merit 200 inches of copy about a single high school football game.

I mean, 9/11 mainbars weren't even that long.
 
I kept expecting the big payoff, especially with how the writer kept mentioning unrequited love, love lost — and it never came. And what that had to do with a high school football game is ... unclear at best. Glenn Stout is not infallible.
 

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