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[Bruce Leroy]

I understand that plenty of places won't run "gotta" in a quote. I think there's nothing wrong with the word and don't know that I've ever spent much time around anyone who said "you have got to" instead of "you gotta." But one of my biggest beefs about cleaning up quotes is seeing "gotta" changed to "got to." If you don't like gotta, change it to "have got to." Changing it to "got to" sounds as awkward as awkward can be, and I see it in AP quotes on a regular basis.

 

[mike311gd]

From the AP Stylebook:

Under "slang": In general, avoid slang, the highly informal language that is outside of conventional or standard language.

Under "colloquialisms": ... Other colloquial words normally should be avoided because they are substandard. Webster's New World notes, for example, that ain't is colloquial and not automatically illiterate or sub-standard usage. But it also notes that ain't is "a dialectical or substandard contraction." Thus it should not be used in news stories unless needed to illustrate substandard speech in writing.

Under "dialect": The form of language peculiar to a region or group, usually in matters of pronunciation or syntax. Dialect should be avoided, even in a quotes manner, unless it is clearly pertinent to a story. There are some words or phrases in everyone's vocabulary that are typical of a particular region or group. Quoting dialect, unless used carefully, implies substandard or illiterate usage.

Under "quotations in the news": Never alter quotations even to correct minor grammatical errors or word usage. Casual minor tongue slips may be removed by using ellipses, but even that should be done with extreme caution. If there is a question about a quote, either don't use it or ask the speaker to clarify. ... Do not routinely use abnormal spellings such as gonna in attempts to convey regional dialects or mispronunciations. Such spellings are appropriate when relevant or help to convey a desired touch in a feature.

 

[HejiraHenry]

Guy in Dirty Harry movie: "I gots to know."

 

[Barsuk]

When a person says, "You gotta," and I want to use the quote, I usually make it, "You've got to." It eliminates the "gotta" but also retains the general sound of what the person said, more that, "You have got to," would, at least.

 

[HandsomeHarley]

The first rule I learned, in college, and take it to my grave because it cost me a writing award, is never use the word "gonna".

I've cleaned up quotes and numerous times have had the person thank me for doing so. I've had some that asked me to clean it up beforehand. And I've NEVER had anyone complain of it.

 

[fishwrapper]

My first rule I learned in college was not to be caught in the girls' dorm.
We must have attended different institutions.

 

[Write-brained]

First rule I learned in college was no beer in the dorms.

The second rule: Rules are meant to be broken.

 

[mike311gd]

I don't use gonna or gotta as a general rule.

 

[mike311gd]

First rule I learned in college was no beer in the dorms.

The second rule: Rules are meant to be broken.

Yeah. We had that first rule, too. But it was altered over the years:

"Don't let me see you with beer in the dorms."

"If you've got beer in you room, just keep your door shut."

"Don't be stupid. If you're bringing beer into the dorm, take it around the back entrance."

"Eh, you're graduating this semester, right?"

 

[Write-brained]

This was my favorite.

"Give me a couple of beers and I won't say anything about the girl in your room."

 

[mike311gd]

I once did a summer session at school and my neighbors were a couple of RAs during the regular semesters, but were just students for the session. We drank just about every night on every floor, and if an actual RA came in, we were golden because they weren't going to rat out my neighbors. They were some of the best weeks of college I've ever had.

 

[Write-brained]

I once did a summer session at school and my neighbors were a couple of RAs during the regular semesters, but were just students for the session. We drank just about every night on every floor, and if an actual RA came in, we were golden because they weren't going to rat out my neighbors. They were some of the best weeks of college I've ever had.

Yup, the secret was keeping the RA's happy. Unfortunately, ours rotated weekends and there was one chick we couldn't bribe charm. She caught enough that I had to meet with a counselor on drinking.

 

[mike311gd]

And there's always that one who wears their suspenders a little too tightly. I had a friend who always wanted to set examples out of people -- no matter how close they were. She was stuck in "I've-got-to-be-professional-and-do-my-job" mode. What a tool.

 

[I'll never tell]

never change a quote.

End. Of. Thread.

If he says "We ain't got no business losing to these punks." you "GONNA" change that. Hell. Freak. No.

That's "GONNA" be my lede.

If I'm not "GONNA" change that English, I'm not going to change "GONNA".

I want to put people in the mindset that they are standing beside the person that I'm interviewing. I want to paint a vivid picture. I don't give 2girls1cup if I ever win another award. I've got way more than any professor ever said I would have won at 31 years old.

(CAN YOU TELL I'M DRUNK?)

 

[dawgpounddiehard]

I've seen "gotta" in copy this week... and NOT in a quote. Yikes.

 

[Platyrhynchos]

Irks me to no end that the word "got" is even in the equation.
It shouldn't be.
"You have to ..." instead of "You have got to ..."
If someone says the latter, I'll quote it. But I hate to.
I never, never use the word "got" in such instances.
Others, however, do.

 

[Bruce Leroy]

I'm fine with you gotta, you've gotta, you've got to or you have to. And, if it has to be this way, you have got to. But AP changes "you gotta" to "you got to" on a fairly regular basis. No one speaks that way.

And I'm not one to go against AP, but if 99 percent of the public says gotta and gonna on a regular basis, from congressmen down to janitors, it ain't regional dialect.

 

[old_tony]

... kiss an angel good morning ...

(Sorry, thought this might be a Charley Pride thread. Carry on.)

 

[RedSmithClone]

And there's always that one who wears their suspenders a little too tightly. I had a friend who always wanted to set examples out of people -- no matter how close they were. She was stuck in "I've-got-to-be-professional-and-do-my-job" mode. What a tool.

Sounds like the head of RAs at my IOHL (who was a close friend of one of my close friends) . . . caught me with my cat in my on-campus apartment and made me take it home or get booted out of housing.

Come to find out later, my buddy tells me she is living on campus with three f'n cats. I wanted to smack her around a little. All she said was she was sorry, but she had to do it to stress her authority over all of us.

 

[mike311gd]

And there's always that one who wears their suspenders a little too tightly. I had a friend who always wanted to set examples out of people -- no matter how close they were. She was stuck in "I've-got-to-be-professional-and-do-my-job" mode. What a tool.

Sounds like the head of RAs at my IOHL (who was a close friend of one of my close friends) . . . caught me with my cat in my on-campus apartment and made me take it home or get booted out of housing.

Come to find out later, my buddy tells me she is living on campus with three f'n cats. I wanted to smack her around a little. All she said was she was sorry, but she had to do it to stress her authority over all of us.

I don't trust anyone with more than two cats as a general rule.