Yeah ... that's the way to get people over to your side

[hondo]

... Just disrupt a church service, at a church, I might add, that bears no resemblance to the certifiable gay-bashing bunch in Topeka, Kan.

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20081112/NEWS01/811120369

I think the gay community needs to quit fighting the fact that many denominations will consider homosexuality a sin. I don't see drunks disrupting a church service because churches think alcohol is a sin.

 

[MartinEnigmatica]

To be fair, the drunks are probably sleeping one off.

 

[hondo]

To be fair, the drunks are probably sleeping one off.

Well, in the South, we have church on Wednesday nights.
That's why you never schedule a high school sports event that night below the Virginia-North Carolina line.

 

[Ashy Larry]

To be fair, the drunks are probably sleeping one off.

Or the priest or pastor

 

[GB-Hack]

I don't see alcoholics being barred from having equal rights as others. Tell you what, when people who have been arrested for public drunkeness or a DUI are barred by a state from getting married, you go ahead and let us know.

 

[Ashy Larry]

I don't see alcoholics being barred from having equal rights as others. Tell you what, when people who have been arrested for public drunkeness or a DUI are barred by a state from getting married, you go ahead and let us know.

these folks should hold their "bash back" parties at the state house, not their local church....I'm sure this really swayed the congregation to their side.

 

[JR]

Actually, Hondo, a lot of gays don't give a rat's ass whether some sects consider homosexuality a sin.

They just want the same rights as the Bible Thumpers, many of whom seem bound and determined to deny gays those rights.

Maybe if the evangelicals just minded their own business, they wouldn't have protests in their churches

As KO said, "Why do you care?"

 

[Double J]

I don't see alcoholics being barred from having equal rights as others. Tell you what, when people who have been arrested for public drunkeness or a DUI are barred by a state from getting married, you go ahead and let us know.

Drunkenness is actually a socially acceptable response to a separation or a divorce.

It's also a great excuse for when you wind up married unexpectedly (see: Spears, Britney, and Alexander, Jason).

 

[spnited]

Churches think alcohol is a sin? Where?

Many churches in my area host AA meetings and other 12-step programs three or fouor times a week... night sessions, lunchtime sessions for business people, Saturday sessions.

 

[JR]

Churches think alcohol is a sin? Where?
.

Hondo's from the South. They have church service on Wednesday evenings.

Use those awesome deductive skills, Spnited.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Churches think alcohol is a sin? Where?

Many churches in my area host AA meetings and other 12-step programs three or fouor times a week... night sessions, lunchtime sessions for business people, Saturday sessions.

Some do, trust me.

And the AA meeting thing falls under the "hate the sin, love the sinner" line of thinking.

 

[JR]

Churches think alcohol is a sin? Where?

Many churches in my area host AA meetings and other 12-step programs three or fouor times a week... night sessions, lunchtime sessions for business people, Saturday sessions.

Some do, trust me.

And the AA meeting thing falls under the "hate the sin, love the sinner" line of thinking.

Or in some churches, they see it a part of their social responsibility to reach out to the sick and the less fortunate.

 

[spnited]

If alcohol is a sin, most Catholics I know are on the road to hell

 

[MartinEnigmatica]

Churches think alcohol is a sin? Where?

Many churches in my area host AA meetings and other 12-step programs three or fouor times a week... night sessions, lunchtime sessions for business people, Saturday sessions.

Some do, trust me.

And the AA meeting thing falls under the "hate the sin, love the sinner" line of thinking.

Or in some churches, they see it a part of their social responsibility to reach out to the sick and the less fortunate.

C'mon, churches aren't socialist.

 

[JR]

If alcohol is a sin, most Catholics people I know are on the road to hell

Fixed

 

[Armchair_QB]

If alcohol is a sin, most Catholics I know are on the road to hell

It's not a sin to Catholics. But it is to some other religions.

 

[Diabeetus]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Hondo here.

While I think discussing the topic with interested members of the church would be a good thing, disrupting their services is rude and unnecessary. Protest on public grounds (courthouses, etc) and in a proper manner. The whole concept of bash back is a bit sickening to me...turn the other cheek and make the bashers look foolish in their boorish ways.

 

[hondo]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Hondo here.

While I think discussing the topic with interested members of the church would be a good thing, disrupting their services is rude and unnecessary. Protest on public grounds (courthouses, etc) and in a proper manner. The whole concept of bash back is a bit sickening to me...turn the other cheek and make the bashers look foolish in their boorish ways.

And then we have this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450884,00.html

Great...the gay community can show up en masse to protest, and that's their right. Fine. But when one elderly woman shows up at their protest, carrying a cross in her way of protesting them, they turn into storm troopers.

 

[Diabeetus]

To quote Matthew 5: 38-47

38"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; 40and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well; 41and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile. 42Give to everyone who begs from you, and do not refuse anyone who wants to borrow from you. 43"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45so that you may be children of your Father in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same?

 

[Diabeetus]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Hondo here.

While I think discussing the topic with interested members of the church would be a good thing, disrupting their services is rude and unnecessary. Protest on public grounds (courthouses, etc) and in a proper manner. The whole concept of bash back is a bit sickening to me...turn the other cheek and make the bashers look foolish in their boorish ways.

And then we have this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450884,00.html

Great...the gay community can show up en masse to protest, and that's their right. Fine. But when one elderly woman shows up at their protest, carrying a cross in her way of protesting them, they turn into storm troopers.

You can find ugly examples on both sides of how people are being treated. Sadly, people are losing control of their anger and lashing out in the wrong manner.