Worst SID ever?

[flopflipper]

I don't want to name names either.

and that's what i was referencing with my above comment. jeff nelson isn't a bad guy, from all accounts, yet he'll stonewall you to death because that's what joepa tells him to do. i've dealt with psu people in other sports and never had a problem.

No, Jeff Nelson isn't a bad guy at all.

While fewer and fewer guys at the top schools are working both football and basketball (okay, almost none anymore), I dealt with an SID in football who was fantastic. I'd put him up against anyone. Two months later during basketball season he was nearly impossible to work with, although everyone knew it wasn't necessarily his fault because he had to deal with a difficult coach.

While it's nice when SIDs put media first, when it's all said and done it's the school that pays the SID's salary. With more and more young SIDs in the business it's made more difficult because it's tough for the younger SIDs to stand up against their ADs or coaches. It would be almost like a writer telling an editor he or she doesn't want to do something because he or she works for the paper's readers. Good luck with that.

 

[zebracoy]

You know, I think it's a little bit of bull**** that people using screen names can get on this thread and call out SIDs. It's one thing to call George W. Bush a ****ing moron, but it's another to pick on some poor flack making long bus rides across the SWAC or the MEAC and getting paid $25K/year. It's a bit more personal.

Consider the SIDs you work with as colleagues. Different jobs, sure, but these people are part of your job environment. Everyone would be too scared to name their boss or the writer/desker/photog who sits next to them in the office on a "worst colleagues" thread. I don't see how this is any different.

I'm all for a "what makes a good/bad/horrible SID" thread, discussing the traits of the worst SIDs, but calling these people out on this board is cowardly.

And that's exactly why I didn't put a name with my post. Seemed really hypocritical for me to do so.

 

[outofplace]

I don't want to name names either.

and that's what i was referencing with my above comment. jeff nelson isn't a bad guy, from all accounts, yet he'll stonewall you to death because that's what joepa tells him to do. i've dealt with psu people in other sports and never had a problem.

Agreed. The problem there comes from Paterno and the AD's office.

 

[slappy4428]

Past tense...
Bid Nangle at Northern Illinois and Ken Hoffman at Michigan State... two bigger assholes you'll never find.

As you know, Hoffman was the personal Baghdad Bob for megalomaniac George Perles, a capacity in which he now continues with the bush-league Motor City Bowl.

Somewhat ironic because Hoffman followed two of the absolute all-time greats, Fred Stabley Sr. and his right-hand man Nick Vista, who between them held the position for about 40 years.

My dad went to MSU with Vista... sang the praises of both of them for years.

 

[Lester Bangs]

You know, I think it's a little bit of bull**** that people using screen names can get on this thread and call out SIDs. It's one thing to call George W. Bush a ****ing moron, but it's another to pick on some poor flack making long bus rides across the SWAC or the MEAC and getting paid $25K/year. It's a bit more personal.

Consider the SIDs you work with as colleagues. Different jobs, sure, but these people are part of your job environment. Everyone would be too scared to name their boss or the writer/desker/photog who sits next to them in the office on a "worst colleagues" thread. I don't see how this is any different.

I'm all for a "what makes a good/bad/horrible SID" thread, discussing the traits of the worst SIDs, but calling these people out on this board is cowardly.

If you act like a decent human being and not as some sort of human barricade, you don't end up on this list. That said, I'll echo Mizzou in that the low-level guys don't deserve the heat. It's the guys who have the Associate AD titles and who act like assholes who deserve every inch of it. Those are the guys who make six-figures and who **** on guys making 25k.

 

[outofplace]

You know, I think it's a little bit of bull**** that people using screen names can get on this thread and call out SIDs. It's one thing to call George W. Bush a ****ing moron, but it's another to pick on some poor flack making long bus rides across the SWAC or the MEAC and getting paid $25K/year. It's a bit more personal.

Consider the SIDs you work with as colleagues. Different jobs, sure, but these people are part of your job environment. Everyone would be too scared to name their boss or the writer/desker/photog who sits next to them in the office on a "worst colleagues" thread. I don't see how this is any different.

I'm all for a "what makes a good/bad/horrible SID" thread, discussing the traits of the worst SIDs, but calling these people out on this board is cowardly.

Outing alert: Cadet has been possessed by the spirit of Jason Whitlock.

By this logic, we cannot write anything critical of other members of the media or the athletes and coaches we deal with.

Take all that away and this place could get pretty quiet.

 

[whatwoulddamondo?]

i'll side with cadet on this one thing -- there are a lot of low-level folks (the guy doing field hockey for some school which doesn't prioritize it and are getting paid $22k a year to work 36 hours a week, sans benefits) who aren't anything approaching "public figures" who could get skewered on this thread for no reason, other than s/he didn't hook up the podunk times with a feature on suzie swashbuckler.

 

[ServeItUp]

Bob Knight's SID (and I use that term loosely) at Texas Tech supposedly didn't know that reporters needed to talk to players and coaches after games. He was a friend of the family and his appointment to that position had nothing to do with qualifications.

Also in Texas, the UIL has no time for you if you don't work in Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin or San Antonio. Which leaves every other paper in a large state getting treated like ****.

 

[outofplace]

i'll side with cadet on this one thing -- there are a lot of low-level folks (the guy doing field hockey for some school which doesn't prioritize it and are getting paid $22k a year to work 36 hours a week, sans benefits) who aren't anything approaching "public figures" who could get skewered on this thread for no reason, other than s/he didn't hook up the podunk times with a feature on suzie swashbuckler.

I understand that part. My issue is with her suggesting that we shouldn't be critical of anybody unless we use our real names. Sorry, that just isn't how this board works and she should know that.

I agree that we should be giving any SID the same respect we do to another member of the media. But the anonymity part is irrelevant.

 

[BYH]

If you act like a decent human being and not as some sort of human barricade, you don't end up on this list. That said, I'll echo Mizzou in that the low-level guys don't deserve the heat. It's the guys who have the Associate AD titles and who act like assholes who deserve every inch of it. Those are the guys who make six-figures and who **** on guys making 25k.

Well, yeah. But the impact is dulled when you're used to guys who make eight figures ****ting on you.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Bob Knight's SID (and I use that term loosely) at Texas Tech supposedly didn't know that reporters needed to talk to players and coaches after games. He was a friend of the family and his appointment to that position had nothing to do with qualifications.

Also in Texas, the UIL has no time for you if you don't work in Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin or San Antonio. Which leaves every other paper in a large state getting treated like ****.

I've heard lots of stories about Knight's guy at Tech. Apparently, he was horrendously incompetent.

 

[didntdoit19]

Bob Knight's SID (and I use that term loosely) at Texas Tech supposedly didn't know that reporters needed to talk to players and coaches after games. He was a friend of the family and his appointment to that position had nothing to do with qualifications.

Also in Texas, the UIL has no time for you if you don't work in Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin or San Antonio. Which leaves every other paper in a large state getting treated like ****.
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Also in Texas, the UIL has no time for you if you don't work in Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin or San Antonio. Which leaves every other paper in a large state getting treated like ****.

I've dealt with her too. She's not one of my favorites and never returned any calls.

If I'm going to be screwed over, I'd at least expect a phone call.

 

[SoCalDude]

There was a guy at Long Beach State awhile back. My boss made a late decision that we were going to run preview boxes for its basketball games. So I call him and say I just need basic info for a preview box.
He says, "Ok, what do you need?"
I say, "What's your record?"
He says, "Hold on a minute, I'll check." He puts me on hold for 2 or 3 minutes, then comes back on the phone and says, "We're 1-0."

 

[sg86]

You know, I think it's a little bit of bull**** that people using screen names can get on this thread and call out SIDs. It's one thing to call George W. Bush a ****ing moron, but it's another to pick on some poor flack making long bus rides across the SWAC or the MEAC and getting paid $25K/year. It's a bit more personal.

Consider the SIDs you work with as colleagues. Different jobs, sure, but these people are part of your job environment. Everyone would be too scared to name their boss or the writer/desker/photog who sits next to them in the office on a "worst colleagues" thread. I don't see how this is any different.

I'm all for a "what makes a good/bad/horrible SID" thread, discussing the traits of the worst SIDs, but calling these people out on this board is cowardly.

That's an easy wish to have, except for the fact that these people control our exposure to the information we need to do our jobs. If anyone on here says anything to the SIDs face then we risk losing our jobs, which is a pretty crappy alternative to what exists in this thread right now. All because some people feel the need to be holier than thou at given times. It's a tough job as most everyone on here knows, and when people feel the need to make it tougher because they can we have every right to be pissed off.

 

[Twoback]

I don't want to name names either.

No names? If those are the ground rules, fine.
L."B."T.
No one else will ever come close. Ever. Ever. Ever.

 

[BYH]

no names?

J.H. @ NYU '70s.

with all due respect to twoback, no one will ever top that.