'Woody Plaige'

[Moderator1]

Some interesting stuff in here, offered without comment (by me)

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/woody-plaige-espner-stole-quotes-from-story-29741

 

[Stitch]

A D_B for Moddy, but to be fair, this was buried in the ESPN book thread.

http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/posts/3073367/

 

[MileHigh]

Probably gets buried in there.

And he admits to it. Apologizes.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/06/woody_paige_apologizes_john_ourand_espn_denver_post.php

 

[YankeeFan]

Probably gets buried in there.

And he admits to it. Apologizes.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/06/woody_paige_apologizes_john_ourand_espn_denver_post.php

Total bull****:

"We've agreed that the columns would be shorter, and my column was about six inches too long," he says. "So I cut six inches -- and in the final column I turned in, I improperly, incorrectly and unprofessionally cut the attribution to the SportsBusiness Journal.

The guy should be fired. But he won't be.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Wow.

I know some papers that hide behind things like "was told" or "has said" as acceptable. I know other places where he would have already been fired. I doubt that happens here...

Sad...

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Probably gets buried in there.

And he admits to it. Apologizes.

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2011/06/woody_paige_apologizes_john_ourand_espn_denver_post.php

Total bull****:

"We've agreed that the columns would be shorter, and my column was about six inches too long," he says. "So I cut six inches -- and in the final column I turned in, I improperly, incorrectly and unprofessionally cut the attribution to the SportsBusiness Journal.

The guy should be fired. But he won't be.

It's a lot to swallow.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

The DLB story is well-documented, but unfiortunately, it can't be proven. I'm not defending Woody in any way, but it's the typical stolen idea where a bunch of locals who fit into the story perfectly (usually too perfectly) are quoted. Did the interview actually take place? Probably not, but nobody can prove otherwise. There are a lot of top columnists and writers who I think do that a lot.

 

[Henry Wadsworth Opposite]

Has to be fired.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Added to the Paige story...

Note: This column has been updated from its print version to include an attribution.

He definitely will not be fired.

 

[MileHigh]

Probably not even a suspension, much less a firing.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Probably not even a suspension, much less a firing.

I would tend to agree.

 

[YankeeFan]

There out to be some "blind panel" run by somebody like Pointer that can recommend how do deal with these issues.

Paige will only survive because he's Woody Paige.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

There out to be some "blind panel" run by somebody like Pointer that can recommend how do deal with these issues.

Paige will only survive because he's Woody Paige.

Right. I'm still surprised that at this point the only thing the paper is doing to acknowledge what happened is to add the attribution and put a single sentence at the end of the column. I expected an apology or a clarification. Maybe they think the sentence does that...

 

[Ace]

I love the fact that in Woody's apology, apparently doing your "due diligence" these days means googling someone on the internet and lifting quotes.

What a goofball.

 

[goalmouth]

Paige ate dog food on TV. Why anyone would pay him any attention, much less care what tripe he excretes is one of the great mysteries of our time.

 

[Gator]

You people get worked up over everything. I had a 1-on-1 interview with Paula Creamer once when she was playing a practice round here. She talked to me about her wrist injury and how it was effecting her. Well, weeks later during the tournament, a writer from a major metro comes up to me and asked me about the quotes.

Lo and behold, there they appear the next day with no attribution whatsoever. None. It bothered me for a while, maybe a year, and then I just realized that I need to get over it. I figure that what goes around comes around and bitching about it isn't going to do anything.

 

[YankeeFan]

You people get worked up over everything. I had a 1-on-1 interview with Paula Creamer once when she was playing a practice round here. She talked to me about her wrist injury and how it was effecting her. Well, weeks later during the tournament, a writer from a major metro comes up to me and asked me about the quotes.

Lo and behold, there they appear the next day with no attribution whatsoever. None. It bothered me for a while, maybe a year, and then I just realized that I need to get over it. I figure that what goes around comes around and bitching about it isn't going to do anything.

It's the Cardinal sin of journalism, and every journalist knows it. There's no gray area.

It's like an MLB player betting on baseball -- you're gone.

A student would get an automatic F for plagiarism and at schools with a strict honor code they'd be expelled.

But Woody Paige should only issue a bull **** apology, admitting only to sloppiness, and everyone should move on.

Bull ****.

If you want your profession to have any respect, you have to stand up for it.

 

[Ace]

I also love how in his "explanation" the reason for the whole mistake is that they had to cut six inches off of his column.

Don't know how Woody takes his whacking but most big-time sports columnists don't just tell the desk to lop off the last six inches.

Most are pretty particular about how long their column is going to be.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Stealing quotes is not plagiarism.

It's still stealing and it's still wrong, but it's not plagiarism.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I'm not defending him. Both are horrible things that no journalist under any circumstances should do...