Women's NCAA tourney running, or jogging thread

[dog eat dog world]

Deja vu all over again. This will never be the bracket fun for Vegas and others.

Same damn teams at the top....every...friggin...year....

 

[heyabbott]

And the winner plays Iowa Western Community College.

 

[Batman]

Running, jogging, makes no difference. The women's tournament is still the torn ACL of the sports world.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Running, jogging, makes no difference. The women's tournament is still the torn ACL of the sports world.

Oh my God do I disagree. That is going to be the most hilarious entertainment on TV the next three weeks. The airballs that miss by three feet are such a sight to behold.

LTL's scouting report:

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Forced equality is a problem with this event in the following sense. It shouldn't be a 64-team event. It should be 32, the way the men's tourney was back in the '60s and '70s. The teams from 33 down are not competitive, and surely no fun to watch.

 

[LongTimeListener]

You'd still have tons of blowouts. Baylor played five games this season that they won by 20 or more points against teams that were in the top 25 at the time, including a couple in the 30-plus range.

 

[heyabbott]

I've got daughters and one was the captain of her HS ball team. Proud of her for playing as a 5'2" shooting guard and 3 year starter. But the game is a joke, it's for friends and family, not fans.

Could Griner play for competitive boys high school team? Maybe but she couldn't start. But most men's Juco teams would run UConn and Baylor out the building and for that reason it's a fraud to cover the sport as anything more than a specialty item.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I've got daughters and one was the captain of her HS ball team. Proud of her for playing as a 5'2" shooting guard and 3 year starter. But the game is a joke, it's for friends and family, not fans.

Could Griner play for competitive boys high school team? Maybe but she couldn't start. But most men's Juco teams would run UConn and Baylor out the building and for that reason it's a fraud to cover the sport as anything more than a specialty item.

They wouldn't beat men's teams, so they suck? Is that the logic here?

 

[heyabbott]

I've got daughters and one was the captain of her HS ball team. Proud of her for playing as a 5'2" shooting guard and 3 year starter. But the game is a joke, it's for friends and family, not fans.

Could Griner play for competitive boys high school team? Maybe but she couldn't start. But most men's Juco teams would run UConn and Baylor out the building and for that reason it's a fraud to cover the sport as anything more than a specialty item.

They wouldn't beat men's teams, so they suck? Is that the logic here?

no, the logic is the skills they display in their sport are so ordinary, that watching good high school boys basketball is an equivalency. The logic, further, is that the level of competition is so tiny that those who cover this fraud are engaged in deceiving the public.

National tv coverage, scores of journalists, reams of paper and teragigs of information all engaged to attempt to convince the American public that women's college basketball is a skilled competitive sport on a similar scale as men's college. This is the big lie perpetuated by CBS, ESPN, SI...

The men's DII and Juco tourneys are better displays of skill and competition and you can't even get a score on a crawl at 3am on ESPNU.

The women's game does suck, aesthetically. It lacks the skill and competitiveness of high school basketball yet foisted upon the public as some pure and beautiful version of basketball. Its coverage is greater than its worth and demand and those covering it can't or won't be honest

 

[Baron Scicluna]

Forced equality is a problem with this event in the following sense. It shouldn't be a 64-team event. It should be 32, the way the men's tourney was back in the '60s and '70s. The teams from 33 down are not competitive, and surely no fun to watch.

Looking at last year's tournament, three teams seeded 11th or lower won their first round games: Kansas, Marist and Gonzaga. No. 2 seeded Kentucky won by just 6 over McNeese State. No. 3 St. John's won by just 2 over Creighton. No. 5 Georgetown won by just 5 over Fresno State.

In the men's tournament, seven seeded 11th or lower won their first-round games. So while there's more parity in the men's game, it's not like Cinderellas don't happen in the women's game.

 

[Norrin Radd]

Bunch of sports jockeys using this thread to repeat the same old tired jibes regarding women's basketball makes me very glad to no longer be one of you.

I mean, you all can HAVE sports journalism. But I'm happier than usual to not be in the club.

 

[Uncle.Ruckus]

Elena. Delle. Donne.

 

[dreunc1542]

Bunch of sports jockeys using this thread to repeat the same old tired jibes regarding women's basketball makes me very glad to no longer be one of you.

I mean, you all can HAVE sports journalism. But I'm happier than usual to not be in the club.

For the sake of accuracy, 'yab is a lawyer.

 

[heyabbott]

If Men's college hockey or lacrosse were given the same amount of coverage, on the same outlets, would they get higher ratings?

 

[I Should Coco]

Forced equality is a problem with this event in the following sense. It shouldn't be a 64-team event. It should be 32, the way the men's tourney was back in the '60s and '70s. The teams from 33 down are not competitive, and surely no fun to watch.

Looking at last year's tournament, three teams seeded 11th or lower won their first round games: Kansas, Marist and Gonzaga. No. 2 seeded Kentucky won by just 6 over McNeese State. No. 3 St. John's won by just 2 over Creighton. No. 5 Georgetown won by just 5 over Fresno State.

In the men's tournament, seven seeded 11th or lower won their first-round games. So while there's more parity in the men's game, it's not like Cinderellas don't happen in the women's game.

Not sure about the other two teams you mentioned, but one reason Gonzaga's women's team often wins as a low seed is they host the first and second round games on campus. They're hosting again this season because their fans will fill a relatively small arena (6,000), as opposed to playing at a neutral site where you'd hear echoes.

On the other end of the spectrum, Notre Dame is one of the nation's best women's teams, and the Irish get to travel to Carver-Hawkeye Arena in Iowa City for opening round games. As a No. 1 seed!

 

[poindexter]

There wws a "big game" last week b/t ND and UConn. It was on the highlight shows.

It came down to the end. Both teams were clueless and ND stole a crazy dumb pass. ND came down and scored on the worst defense ive ever seen.

It is horrible basketball. Horrible everything. If that makes me sexist so be it.

 

[Batman]

If Men's college hockey or lacrosse were given the same amount of coverage, on the same outlets, would they get higher ratings?

The big difference between those three sports is, at least women's college basketball is national in scope. You can gin up some interest in a lot of different areas. College hockey and lacrosse -- as well as baseball and softball -- are very much regional sports.

 

[slappy4428]

Bunch of sports jockeys using this thread to repeat the same old tired jibes regarding women's basketball makes me very glad to no longer be one of you.

I mean, you all can HAVE sports journalism. But I'm happier than usual to not be in the club.

As are we.

 

[LongTimeListener]

In the 2010 championship game, UConn played Stanford in a battle of the nation's two best teams. This was at the time UConn had won 77 games in a row and was on its way to BEATING UCLA'S STREAK!!!!!!!

The halftime score was 20-12 Stanford. UConn was stuck on five points for 10:26 of the first half -- and fell behind by a grand total of seven in that time.

And that was the most dominant group in the game's history.

 

[DanOregon]

There are about 10 good women's team every year. Maybe 5 with a chance for winning the thing.
I would have thought the women's game would have developed more since the WNBA came to be, but it hasn't.