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The Yankees losing Game 7 of the 2004 ALCS to blow a 3-0 lead, or the Patriots losing to the Giants

  • Yankees in 2004

    Votes: 30 69.8%
  • Patriots in 2008

    Votes: 13 30.2%

  • Total voters
    43
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.
 
GB-Hack said:
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.

What you said, except you said it first.
 
GB-Hack said:
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.
I'm just talking about one game
 
If the Patriots led 28-0 in the waning minutes of the third quarter and lost, it would be worse. As is, nothing tops the Yankees' epic fall.

Neat they're both Boston-NY stories though. Take that, rest of the country!!!!
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
GB-Hack said:
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.
I'm just talking about one game

Which one? Game 7? The Super Bowl would obviously be worse because Game 7 wasn't close, but I don't think you can look at it in a vacuum. You have to consider the whole series.

Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS could be looked at as a single, devastating loss. But you have to take all of the 2004 series into consideration. And it's not close. It's easily the ALCS over the Super Bowl.
 
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Simon_Cowbell said:
GB-Hack said:
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.
I'm just talking about one game

You can't talk about just one game. The Yankees loss wouldn't be considered one of the all-timers if both teams had exchanged win for win over the first six games.
 
GB-Hack said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
GB-Hack said:
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.
I'm just talking about one game

You can't talk about just one game. The Yankees loss wouldn't be considered one of the all-timers if both teams had exchanged win for win over the first six games.
Just what was at stake in that one game.... and what was lost.
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
GB-Hack said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
GB-Hack said:
Yankees. Anything can happen in one game. If you get four cracks at it and can't win any of them, that's a complete disaster.
I'm just talking about one game

You can't talk about just one game. The Yankees loss wouldn't be considered one of the all-timers if both teams had exchanged win for win over the first six games.
Just what was at stake in that one game.... and what was lost.

It was already lost.
 
I think the Red Sox lost to the Mets in the World Series was worse, whoops, there I go with that whole Boston/NY thing again :)
 
Write-brained said:
I think the Red Sox lost to the Mets in the World Series was worse, whoops, there I go with that whole Boston/NY thing again :)
Not even close.

There was still a game 7 afterward.
 
Game 6 of the '86 Series was infinitely worse. The Giants did a lot to win Super Bowl 42. The Mets didn't win Game 6 nearly as much as the Sox lost it.
 
terrier said:
Game 6 of the '86 Series was infinitely worse. The Giants did a lot to win Super Bowl 42. The Mets didn't win Game 6 nearly as much as the Sox lost it.
But NOTHING was decided by its outcome.
 
I'll vote for neither. There was no worse loss in the history of sports than the Soviet Union, probably the greatest professional hockey team ever, losing to a bunch of college kids at Lake Placid in 1980. Not exactly the kind of loss to have to head back to a communist country and explain. There was a lot of joking at the time that Viktor Tikhonov, the coach of the Soviets, might be sent to a Siberian brig. Except that it wasn't joking -- considering that he pulled the world's greatest goalie -- Tretiak -- during the game in favor of a backup, and the move eventually backfired.
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
Write-brained said:
I think the Red Sox lost to the Mets in the World Series was worse, whoops, there I go with that whole Boston/NY thing again :)
Not even close.

There was still a game 7 afterward.

But by your previous logic, what would the first six matter for either series? The Yankees beat the Red Sox by three games to take the East in 2004. So by that measure, the Patriots' loss is much bigger. But baseball and football postseasons are two entirely different beats. I think you've got to take the entire series if you want to make this into an objective discussion.

I voted for the Yankees because a 3-0 series lead had never been overcome in baseball, and the Yankees destroyed Boston in the third game, 19-6. For Boston to edge its way back into the series and then club New York in Game 7 was monumental. Take away the histories of each team, and you've still got an epic collapse. That trumps the Patriots' loss, in my opinion.
 
mike311gd said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
Write-brained said:
I think the Red Sox lost to the Mets in the World Series was worse, whoops, there I go with that whole Boston/NY thing again :)
Not even close.

There was still a game 7 afterward.

But by your previous logic, what would the first six matter for either series? The Yankees beat the Red Sox by three games to take the East in 2004. So by that measure, the Patriots' loss is much bigger. But baseball and football postseasons are two entirely different beats. I think you've got to take the entire series if you want to make this into an objective discussion.

I voted for the Yankees because a 3-0 series lead had never been overcome in baseball, and the Yankees destroyed Boston in the third game, 19-6. For Boston to edge its way back into the series and then club New York in Game 7 was monumental. Take away the histories of each team, and you've still got an epic collapse. That trumps the Patriots' loss, in my opinion.
One baseball game, where a loss puts you into all-time infamy.
One football game, where a loss prevents the only 19-0 season, and a fourth Lombardi Trophy.

1986 Game 6 decided nothing, except that there would be a Game 7.
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
mike311gd said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
Write-brained said:
I think the Red Sox lost to the Mets in the World Series was worse, whoops, there I go with that whole Boston/NY thing again :)
Not even close.

There was still a game 7 afterward.

But by your previous logic, what would the first six matter for either series? The Yankees beat the Red Sox by three games to take the East in 2004. So by that measure, the Patriots' loss is much bigger. But baseball and football postseasons are two entirely different beats. I think you've got to take the entire series if you want to make this into an objective discussion.

I voted for the Yankees because a 3-0 series lead had never been overcome in baseball, and the Yankees destroyed Boston in the third game, 19-6. For Boston to edge its way back into the series and then club New York in Game 7 was monumental. Take away the histories of each team, and you've still got an epic collapse. That trumps the Patriots' loss, in my opinion.
One baseball game, where a loss puts you into all-time infamy.
One football game, where a loss prevents the only 19-0 season, and a fourth Lombardi Trophy.

1986 Game 6 decided nothing, except that there would be a Game 7.

If it's just one game, I'd go with the Super Bowl. But I don't think any postseason baseball series should be measured on anything less than the entire series.
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
terrier said:
Game 6 of the '86 Series was infinitely worse. The Giants did a lot to win Super Bowl 42. The Mets didn't win Game 6 nearly as much as the Sox lost it.
But NOTHING was decided by its outcome.

Well, other than Game 6.
 
mike311gd said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
mike311gd said:
Simon_Cowbell said:
Write-brained said:
I think the Red Sox lost to the Mets in the World Series was worse, whoops, there I go with that whole Boston/NY thing again :)
Not even close.

There was still a game 7 afterward.

But by your previous logic, what would the first six matter for either series? The Yankees beat the Red Sox by three games to take the East in 2004. So by that measure, the Patriots' loss is much bigger. But baseball and football postseasons are two entirely different beats. I think you've got to take the entire series if you want to make this into an objective discussion.

I voted for the Yankees because a 3-0 series lead had never been overcome in baseball, and the Yankees destroyed Boston in the third game, 19-6. For Boston to edge its way back into the series and then club New York in Game 7 was monumental. Take away the histories of each team, and you've still got an epic collapse. That trumps the Patriots' loss, in my opinion.
One baseball game, where a loss puts you into all-time infamy.
One football game, where a loss prevents the only 19-0 season, and a fourth Lombardi Trophy.

1986 Game 6 decided nothing, except that there would be a Game 7.

If it's just one game, I'd go with the Super Bowl. But I don't think any postseason baseball series should be measured on anything less than the entire series.
OK. You may very well be right.

But, ultimately, that baseball series came down to the same parameters as an NFL title game.

One game and done.
 

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