Werth: "Super-Nerds" are killing baseball

[hondo]

Jayson Werth Says 'Super Nerds' Are Killing Baseball: 'It's a Joke'

I have to agree.

 

[John B. Foster]

Ya - it was much better when wins really mattered. DeGrom and his six wins would not merit the NL Cy Young. Winners win.

 

[KJIM]

It's not strikeouts that are killing it?

 

[TyWebb]

 

[DanOregon]

Outside of some "unwritten code" - why don't more players bunt to beat shifts?

 

[TyWebb]

Outside of some "unwritten code" - why don't more players bunt to beat shifts?

Apparently because some Stanford grad told them not to.

 

[LongTimeListener]

It's not strikeouts that are killing it?

The strikeouts come from the stat revolution a.k.a. "super-nerds."

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Werth and his 7-year $126 million dollar contract did more to kill baseball than and super nerds!
Talk about over-****ing-paid.
He should still be kissing Boras' ass!

 

[User 149557]

The fastballs of relievers going up an average of two miles per hour in the last decade has something to do with it, too.

Funny thing is Werth was a really solid sabermetric player. Like Joe Morgan, he doesn't actually understand why he was valuable.

The aesthetic argument isn't the concern of the baseball side of these organizations. Baseball teams shouldn't be purposefully inefficient so you are more interested in the sport. Solving that would require rules changes. A team shouldn't bunt against shifts if they believe it produces less runs because a man is yawning on the couch.

 

[poindexter]

ADAPT OR DIE

 

[poindexter]

Werth also bitched about Boras not finding him a job.

Scott Boras contradicts Jayson Werth: ‘We contacted all 30 teams’ but didn’t receive any offers

 

[heyabbott]

Werth also bitched about Boras not finding him a job.

Scott Boras contradicts Jayson Werth: ‘We contacted all 30 teams’ but didn’t receive any offers

Boras is the kind of guy who would negotiate the price of lemonade at a child’s stand

 

[LongTimeListener]

The fastballs of relievers going up an average of two miles per hour in the last decade has something to do with it, too.

Funny thing is Werth was a really solid sabermetric player. Like Joe Morgan, he doesn't actually understand why he was valuable.

The aesthetic argument isn't the concern of the baseball side of these organizations. Baseball teams shouldn't be purposefully inefficient so you are more interested in the sport. Solving that would require rules changes. A team shouldn't bunt against shifts if they believe it produces less runs because a man is yawning on the couch.

But that's part of sabermetrics. Teams didn't value velocity and strikeouts until the discovery of DIPS, BABIP and three true outcomes. Pitching to contact was a vaunted skill.

It's a meathead rant by Werth. It isn't entirely wrong. More right than wrong, actually, if we're talking about the game as a spectator event and not merely the wins and losses.

 

[goalmouth]

The valuing of HRs and walks over contact is also killing the game. Who wants to see 20 Ks in a single game, as the White Sox did in the extra-inning loss to the Yankees the other day?

 

[JC]

I want to see the first team to go back to the old ways. There's a reason it won't happen.

 

[Justin_Rice]

With a 162-game season, baseball is built to measure success over the long term.

It's exactly the sort of thing data science was invented for.

 

[heyabbott]

With a 162-game season, baseball is built to measure success over the long term.

It's exactly the sort of thing data science was invented for.

And that’s the real point that baseball has changed for the worse. A 1 game playing followed by 2 short series to get to the World Series is disrespectful of the long baseball season.

 

[LongTimeListener]

And in the 1990s, the way to play pro basketball was to beat the other guys up until they succumbed, and to slow the game down until 90 points was a winning score. People hated watching it. So the NBA changed the rules.

Baseball has this hallowed spot in our sepia-toned memories, so nothing can change about the game ever. Even the stuff that's patently obvious -- like the Astros and lots of other pitchers doctoring the ball -- they won't do anything about it. But unlike in the past, skills and (especially) strength have developed and will continue to develop far beyond the point where the game balances out.

 

[Justin_Rice]

And that’s the real point that baseball has changed for the worse. A 1 game playing followed by 2 short series to get to the World Series is disrespectful of the long baseball season.

As a Nats fan, I've chosen to celebrate regular-season success, since it's the true measure of a good team.


Felt the same way about hockey, too, right up until about mid-June of this year ....

 

[heyabbott]

As a Nats fan, I've chosen to celebrate regular-season success, since it's the true measure of a good team.


Felt the same way about hockey, too, right up until about mid-June of this year ....

As a Nats fan I’ve begun yelling at FP