Well, this really freaking sucks......

[Chef2]

Kansas State coach Snyder has throat cancer

 

[Matt1735]

**** Cancer

 

[User 149557]

My prediction: Bill Snyder will not only beat throat cancer, he'll have it doing outdated calisthenics and medicine ball exercises within months. All while wearing an Insight.Com Bowl windbreaker.

 

[Chef2]

My prediction: Bill Snyder will not only beat throat cancer, he'll have it doing outdated calisthenics and medicine ball exercises within months. All while wearing an Insight.Com Bowl windbreaker.

.....as well as wearing a pair of Nike Cortez.
Love that story about his shoes too.

Bill Snyder: Miracle Worker | Sports Illustrated Article

 

[Pilot]

Sounds treatable? But at that age, how treatable?

I feel like this attitude is frowned upon around here, but Snyder and K-State football has been tremendously important to my family. My parents bought season tickets his first season in 1989 when I was 8, and they still have the same tickets. Eventually, I went to school there and got student tickets, then started working for the campus paper and was in the press box.

We've been to countless games, home, road, bowl, whatever, and K-State football and Bill Snyder have brought us more great family moments than I can count. It'll certainly mean something to us when he retires, be it soon or in a year or, somehow, two or three.

 

[exmediahack]

Snyder is a person I consider a delightful curmudgeon.

I only covered him for one football season (the Fiesta Bowl season of 1997) and found him so laser focused as he was on Year Eight of the miracle.

His second act at K-State (2009 to now) I consider almost as important as the first in that college football has also evolved to make it more difficult for programs that aren't in major metros/cool campuses/stocked with NFL talent within 200 miles to win consistently.

I'm also not sure on how "treatable" at age 77 for Snyder. K-State would be very wise to put the succession plan in place now. If that means hiring Jim Leavitt, paying the buyout and getting him in position to take over should be it necessary, then do it.

 

[Chef2]

If that means hiring Jim Leavitt, paying the buyout and getting him in position to take over should be it necessary, then do it.

Sadly, I don't think it will be Leavitt, though it should. And it won't be Venables either, though it should.
I'd lay odds right now it will be Sean Snyder. Yes, Bill's kid. Though it shouldn't.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

Has enough time passed since Leavitt's meltdown at USF for him to be a head coach again?

 

[Jake_Taylor]

Has enough time passed since Leavitt's meltdown at USF for him to be a head coach again?

That's a good question. I don't know what the deal is with Leavitt and K-State. He clearly wants the job. His Oregon contract has a clause that allows him to leave for K-State, and only K-State, without a buyout.

But there is some weird history there. I was once on a beat where I got to know a former USF assistant who told me he was house hunting in Manhattan when he got word K-State had pulled an offer to Leavitt the first time Snyder retired. KSU turned around and hired Ron Prince.

I posted on the other thread that I didn't know it for a fact, but the rumors were always that Venables and the others who left for OU with Stoops burnt every bridge on the way out of Manhattan.

 

[exmediahack]

I imagine the Sean Snyder Plan is in place and I don't like it.

I've never liked the son following a legend at the same school. If the son is so great, why hasn't a Big XII school poached him?

 

[SFIND]

I imagine the Sean Snyder Plan is in place and I don't like it.

I've never liked the son following a legend at the same school. If the son is so great, why hasn't a Big XII school poached him?

But it worked out so well for Pat Knight.

 

[Chef2]

I posted on the other thread that I didn't know it for a fact, but the rumors were always that Venables and the others who left for OU with Stoops burnt every bridge on the way out of Manhattan.

Those bridges weren't burnt. They were napalmed.

 

[Chef2]

I've never liked the son following a legend at the same school. If the son is so great, why hasn't a Big XII school poached him?

Because he's not. If he's going to be the head coach, he had better bring in some REALLY REALLY good coordinators.

 

[micropolitan guy]

If that means hiring Jim Leavitt, paying the buyout and getting him in position to take over should be it necessary, then do it.

Leavitt has no buyout if he leaves Oregon for KSU. Had that specifically written into his contract.

 

[exmediahack]

If that means hiring Jim Leavitt, paying the buyout and getting him in position to take over should be it necessary, then do it.

Leavitt has no buyout if he leaves Oregon for KSU. Had that specifically written into his contract.

I should have been more specific. If Snyder is really sick and the succession plan is in place and Leavitt is the choice, bring Leavitt in now as an associate head coach -- and, for that, pay the buyout since it wouldn't be for the HC position.

 

[Chef2]

If Bill and the Vanier Family says they can bring in Leavitt, then they will bring in Leavitt. If you don't know who the Vanier Family is, they're the money behind Kansas State.

Vanier Family Football Complex // K-STATE ATHLETICS MASTER PLAN

 

[Pilot]

If Bill and the Vanier Family says they can bring in Leavitt, then they will bring in Leavitt. If you don't know who the Vanier Family is, they're the money behind Kansas State.

Vanier Family Football Complex // K-STATE ATHLETICS MASTER PLAN

And supposedly the reason Venables is persona non grata in Manhattan, thanks to a fling with one of the married Vanier daughters back in his time at K-State. Though the thought is also that Jack Vanier has gotten past that, and that Brent could be a viable candidate again to return. It is weird he hasn't seriously considered (or been considered for) any head coaching job.

— AD Currie has done a good job of diversifying the fish in the K-State donor pond, but the Vanier's are still the whale there.

— Leavitt doesn't really fit what people assume Currie will be looking for, but the loophole in his Oregon contract is hard to ignore.

— Last rumors I heard on Sean Snyder were that he wasn't as interested in having the job as his dad was in getting him the job. If Sean really wanted to be a head coach he needed to have left and built up experience elsewhere, or at very least taken a more active coaching role at K-State. I think Bill believes Sean can do the job because Sean already does a lot of it, but I think Bill sells himself short. He does a lot more than meticulously schedule practices and travel days.

As much respect as Bill has at K-State — and it's basically infinite — there would be a major pushback from fans if Sean gets the job.

Many have seen it as a contest between Currie and Snyder to pick the next head coach. Whoever lasts longer gets to choose. I'm really not sure how Snyder potentially having to retire because of this would change that game, though.

 

[Pilot]

Snyder is a person I consider a delightful curmudgeon.

I was, of course, fairly in awe at my very first football press conference after I started with the campus paper. There was a big debate that year about who the quarterback was going to be, Mark Dunn, a highly touted juco transfer with a big arm, and Ell Roberson, then a sophomore for whom it hadn't yet clicked.

Snyder came in exactly on time, as always, and led off with a long comment about how Dunn had earned the starting job for the first game of the season, and "that's all I'm going to say about quarterback."

Somehow, some way, for literally the only time in my three years covering that team, I got the first question after he was done.

"Can quarterback be a strength of this team?"

He slowly turned to me, lips pursed and glaring like he does. He waited a long second.

"I thought I said I wouldn't comment anymore on quarterbacks."

Then his face relaxed, he smiled, gave a good answer to my question and answered about 15 more quarterback questions from the rest of the media.

 

[Chef2]

And supposedly the reason Venables is persona non grata in Manhattan, thanks to a fling with one of the married Vanier daughters back in his time at K-State. Though the thought is also that Jack Vanier has gotten past that, and that Brent could be a viable candidate again to return. It is weird he hasn't seriously considered (or been considered for) any head coaching job.

If I'm Venables, and I'm a DC making 1.5 million per year with relatively little pressure, I'm not even thinking about getting a HC job anywhere.

 

[Alma]

And it won't be Venables either, though it should.

There's something to Venables not being a HC already. Not exactly sure what it is, but it's something.