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Lugnuts said:
Washington's Metro system is pretty antiseptic, right everybody?

That's sort of another reason why it didn't work.

Maybe I am wrong in this assumption, but the Metro is different from the NYC subway in that 95% of the people on the Metro are going to or coming from work.

The NYC subway is used much more for going to shop, going to see a friend, going to go to the gym and thus are not similar types of riders.

Too many variables here not accounted for by the story.

I wish Ragu would post his story here that he wrote on another thread.
 
93Devil said:
Lugnuts said:
Washington's Metro system is pretty antiseptic, right everybody?

That's sort of another reason why it didn't work.

Maybe I am wrong in this assumption, but the Metro is different from the NYC subway in that 95% of the people on the Metro are going to or coming from work.

The NYC subway is used much more for going to shop, going to see a friend, going to go to the gym and thus are not similar types of riders.

I'm pretty sure millions of people use the NYC subway to get to/from work.

It may be that a higher percentage of Metro riders are work commuters, but I would venture a guess that the NYC subway carries more work commuters in terms of numbers-- by far.
 
Lugnuts said:
Part of the problem with this set up was doing it in the morning while people were trying to get to work during a recession.

You realize this was done two years ago, right? This wasn't recent.
 
Okay so it wasn't technically a recession back then, but the economy wasn't so great 2 years ago. Remember when we got Pelosi and the Democrats flooding Congress?

It's hard to believe but the economy has stunk for quite some time now.
 
Nobody has been able to afford bags of dicks for a long time.
Most of the haute cuisine restaurants featuring bags of dicks have gone under.
Now you can only get instant bags of dicks from the grocery store.
 
Junkie said:
Is that instant bags of dicks, or bags of instant dicks? If the latter, what do you add?

Not that I'm going to try any. I just like knowing about cuisine.

He's just fixing it for a friend.
 
Junkie said:
Is that instant bags of dicks, or bags of instant dicks? If the latter, what do you add?

Not that I'm going to try any. I just like knowing about cuisine.


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"Sky King -- Brought to you by Instant Bag O'Dicks, the snack sensation!"
Their commercials back in the '50's, with Hugh Beaumont, are considered classics of the genre.
 
To be fair, their turn-of-the-century print campaign with Sarah Bernhardt, first lady of the theater, set the standard.

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Are the dicks attached to anyone?

If so, who?

If not, where are their owners?
 
So if we have a Big Bag O Dicks and A Big Bag O Eunuchs, what is this stuff made from?

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A bowl of dicks must be accompanied by a frosty mug of STFU[/itsawonderfullifesjstyleedition2]
 
Just the thing to go with the Bag O' Dicks in my c-rations.
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Beautifully written story. Made better by Fenian's dislike.

And the reference to "haute cuisine restaurants" is so...elitist.
 
I purposefully didn't read this when it was published. Don't know why. Everyone I knew was talking about it. My wife read it, loved it, and said it brought her to tears. Still couldn't read it. I think it was out of frustration, to be honest. I work at a newspaper that was once ambitious and bold enough to allow this kind of writing and thinking, and now as that same newspaper circles the drain, it's almost more discouraging to read stories like this than it is inspiring. And I hate being the person who is discouraged by art instead of inspired by it. The person I connected the most with in the piece was the guy who gave up the violin at age 18 because he knew he'd never play like Joshua Bell.

"If you love something but choose not to do it professionally, it's not a waste. Because, you know, you still have it. You have it forever."

Unfortunately, that's sort of how I feel that way about the Writing Life lately.

I think Fenian's point about the story is a fair one. It does seem gimmicky, and the conclusion a little snotty, though obviously beautifully written. The question of whether we're too busy to recognize beauty is an interesting one, but it's sort of unfair in this context, and I think easily shot down. The one quote I really didn't like was the one from the British author John Lane:

"This is about having the wrong priorities," Lane said.

Really? That, to me, is elitist and unfair, and makes me lean a little more toward Fenian's POV. Is recognizing beauty as important as taking your kids to school? Or arriving at work on time, as a civil servant, to make certain that various forms of government run properly? Is there no romance in responsibility or discipline? As Matt Damon says in Good Will Hunting, There's honor in that. I don't know the answers, but I do think it's unfair to frame it that the world is uncarring and unfeeling simply because only a handful out of 1,000 people stopped. I think we all want to believe we might have stopped, even if we're not dreamers at heart, but I am as much a sponge for art, poetry, literature and music as anyone I know, and I can't say for certain I would have stopped. Sadly, I think I probably wouldn't have stopped if I was on my way to work, but I might have thought briefly about how the violinist seemed to be providing the soundtrack for my melancholy. But if I were visiting D.C. as a tourist, I probably would have viewed it differently.

For what it's worth, the most meaty discussion of this piece occurred here, after it won a Pulitzer:

http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/54914/
 
Junkie said:
Naturally you do. You probably haven't seen it up close enough to form a better opinion. When that's what "academics" are passing as "research" it makes me skeptical about all of them. It's a very insular world and the ivory towerites can be even more full of **** than they are of themselves. Little if any research is done without an agenda fueling it.

This work is largely a beggar's game, and dependent on patrons, and dependent upon people's perceptions of the utility of the research. Meaning right now is a really ****ty time for it.
 

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