Vick taken advantage of the whole way

[Oggiedoggie]

I think that the main reason we're noticing that Vick was stolen from is that his career fell apart because of his stupidity in another area.

How many other professional athletes do you think are out there, being systematically stolen from, that we don't notice because there wasn't such a wheels-falling-off-the-cart moment?

There are lots of bankruptcies by former athletes a few years after they stop playing and you have to wonder how that happens. I say look at all the hands in their pockets.

Oh, and karma is a pit bull *****.

 

[93Devil]

Am I wrong to think that the NFL Players Union should organize some type of accreditation system for people to represent professional athletes? Seriously, this is exactly the type of service they should be providing.

How crazy is it that Brooks was the guy who point Vick in the right direction and not a Union rep?

 

[playthrough]

Am I wrong to think that the NFL Players Union should organize some type of accreditation system for people to represent professional athletes? Seriously, this is exactly the type of service they should be providing.

How crazy is it that Brooks was the guy who point Vick in the right direction and not a Union rep?

If I'm not mistaken, the NFL holds symposiums for rookies and topics include how to handle the windfall of money. Maybe the Union does more too, but that's not going to stop a player from turning to a misinformed hometown buddy or teammate for help and trusting every word of it. So the string of bad advice continues.

 

[MU_was_not_so_hard]

Am I wrong to think that the NFL Players Union should organize some type of accreditation system for people to represent professional athletes? Seriously, this is exactly the type of service they should be providing.

How crazy is it that Brooks was the guy who point Vick in the right direction and not a Union rep?

If I'm not mistaken, the NFL holds symposiums for rookies and topics include how to handle the windfall of money. Maybe the Union does more too, but that's not going to stop a player from turning to a misinformed hometown buddy or teammate for help and trusting every word of it. So the string of bad advice continues.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the NFL does have representation standards for agents/reps who will be dealing with teams on a players' behalf -- you can't be any schmuck off the street.
But as far as someone who sets up endorsements, outside business transactions, etc., that would be nearly impossible from a legal standpoint for the NFL to tell players how they can handle their own money. That's why you'll see a lot of friends, uncles, etc., often setting up side gigs on the players' behalf.

 

[SixToe]

The only reason he was paying any restitution was to try to get a reduced sentence, not out of the goodness of his heart.

Stupid people don't deserve to have bad stuff happen to them, like getting robbed of your money while you're being made a ***** in Cell Block D.

But in this case? Tough ****.

He can sell Amway or play in the CFL or one of the indoor leagues when he gets out. Other people rebuild their lives and finances. Vick can do the same.

 

[93Devil]

Am I wrong to think that the NFL Players Union should organize some type of accreditation system for people to represent professional athletes? Seriously, this is exactly the type of service they should be providing.

How crazy is it that Brooks was the guy who point Vick in the right direction and not a Union rep?

If I'm not mistaken, the NFL holds symposiums for rookies and topics include how to handle the windfall of money. Maybe the Union does more too, but that's not going to stop a player from turning to a misinformed hometown buddy or teammate for help and trusting every word of it. So the string of bad advice continues.

Tell them they are not a member of the Union until they complete the courses.

Simple.

The NFL should also be aware of any buisiness ventures the players start and have copies of the paperwork and filings.

Don't say it cannot be done because any organization that has billions of dollars at its fingertips can get anything done.

 

[playthrough]

Why should the NFL care about players' (legal) business interests? Regular Joes throw money down the drain every day through bad restaurant ventures and other failed businesses. Athletes have and will continue to until the end of time. I agree that the Union should have a database of reliable advisors and other means of assistance in place to help, but just because you lead players to water doesn't mean they'll drink it.

 

[ThomsonONE]

The union doesn't want to get involved in a database for the players, because the union would then be liable in a case like Vick's. They don't need the risk or the headaches.

 

[93Devil]

How much has the Vick case cost the NFL in ratings and merchandising?

How big of a headache could it be? Bigger than the one they have with Vick?

 

[playthrough]

How much has the Vick case cost in ratings? My guess is zero, zip, zilch except maybe in the Atlanta market.

Merchandising, sure there's a hit without Vick, but there's always someone else coming to fill the coffers.

The Vick case was disgusting and this fallout is disturbing (though not a national heartache like dog abuse), but if you're talking about something that could truly damage the NFL, I don't see it. That league can do little wrong as far as fan popularity.

 

[ThomsonONE]

How much has the Vick case cost the NFL in ratings and merchandising?

How big of a headache could it be? Bigger than the one they have with Vick?

You're confusing the NFL with the Players Association.

 

[BYH]

You think Gene Upshaw gives a **** about helping players handle their finances?

 

[93Devil]

With the NBA gaining a huge PR push from this current Olympic team, and the NFL having Vick and Pac Man stories, I would say the NBA gained a step on the NFL. Mind you, the NFL is still the biggest kid on the block.

You might think it's no big deal, but in big business, losing a step to the competition could be a big deal.

Anyone who collects a paycheck from the NFL should be thinking about the strength of the league.

 

[Drip]

Mike was never the sharpest knife in the drawer. He may look financially strapped but I suspect he still has some money.

 

[poindexter]

With the NBA gaining a huge PR push from this current Olympic team, and the NFL having Vick and Pac Man stories, I would say the NBA gained a step on the NFL. Mind you, the NFL is still the biggest kid on the block.

You might think it's no big deal, but in big business, losing a step to the competition could be a big deal.

Anyone who collects a paycheck from the NFL should be thinking about the strength of the league.

Devil may be on to something... I heard the Meadowlands were only half-full for Favre's debut.

 

[93Devil]

With the NBA gaining a huge PR push from this current Olympic team, and the NFL having Vick and Pac Man stories, I would say the NBA gained a step on the NFL. Mind you, the NFL is still the biggest kid on the block.

You might think it's no big deal, but in big business, losing a step to the competition could be a big deal.

Anyone who collects a paycheck from the NFL should be thinking about the strength of the league.

Devil may be on to something... I heard the Meadowlands were only half-full for Favre's debut.

I know what you are talking about.

But the Knicks still suck.

But the pr coup of the Olympics for LeBron and a lot of this guys should not be overlooked.

 

[schiezainc]

How much has the Vick case cost in ratings? My guess is zero, zip, zilch except maybe in the Atlanta market.

Merchandising, sure there's a hit without Vick, but there's always someone else coming to fill the coffers.

The Vick case was disgusting and this fallout is disturbing (though not a national heartache like dog abuse), but if you're talking about something that could truly damage the NFL, I don't see it. That league can do little wrong as far as fan popularity.

Vick could have killed animals with his bare hands live on television and it wouldn't hurt the NFL's popularity right now.

Fans of 31 of the teams would say "Well, that's not our guy, so it doesn't affect my loyalty to the league". Fans of Atlanta would say "Well, he's misunderstood" or "It's a culture thing" or completely rip him to pieces only to come back three weeks later and say "I still support the Falcons, we'll move on without him".

 

[RossLT]

Sad, hopefully he turns his life around when he gets out.

yeah, i'm so holding out hope.

But he found Jesus during the press conference ...

Doesn't every athlete talk about Jesus?

 

[Tom Petty]

Sad, hopefully he turns his life around when he gets out.

yeah, i'm so holding out hope.

But he found Jesus during the press conference ...

Doesn't every athlete talk about Jesus?

only after an arrest.

 

[RossLT]

Sad, hopefully he turns his life around when he gets out.

yeah, i'm so holding out hope.

But he found Jesus during the press conference ...

Doesn't every athlete talk about Jesus?

only after an arrest.

Nicely done Tomas