Ubaldo Jimenez Detained in AZ As Illegal

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Boom_70

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Nah not really but this dumb new law is sure to wrongly grab someone notable and then it will hit the fan.
 
JayFarrar said:
Well boo, can you at least tell me who Ubaldo Jimenez is?


Some illegal who used to be Boom's favorite squeegee man in NYC before Rudy chased them all off to the desert
 
Would have been more believable if you said Rodrigo Lopez, who plays for the D'backs and is actually Mexican. (Jimenez is Dominican).
 
Jimenez is Dominican, but isn't that part of the point/joke?
The new law is primarily intended to target illegal Mexicans but is so poorly conceived it would open the door to pulling over a Cy Young-candidate pitcher who is here legally from the Dominican Republic.
 
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I, for one, am not sure why people are so upset with the new law. Isn't anything that gives local police officers a pretext for questioning anyone they want, a good thing?
 
I was just saying in the office here yesterday that a shrewd ACLU-type lawyer will find himself a blue-eyed blond Canadian who is in AZ illegally, get that person arrested, and then have a field day with the courts.
 
The Big Ragu said:
I, for one, am not sure why people are so upset with the new law. Isn't anything that gives local police officers a pretext for shooting anyone they want, a good thing?

Altering to make it even more perfect.
 
No one's going to get nabbed. It's complete pandering, passing a law the legislators know is 100 percent unenforceable just to get the electorate worked up. Sad thing is, it works. My college-educated cousin who grew up Catholic like me but then married a Jew, moved to Madison, Wis., and somehow became an evangelical fundamentalist in the process (beats me, as her history marks her as least likely fundie of all time) was simultaneously on Facebook singing the praises of the new Arizona law while whooping it up about some district court judge who allowed a creche on public property. There's red meat that people just gobble up. It's sad.
 
Wandy Rodriguez might have something to worry about. In an SI interview recently, he revealed that he used a friend's identity the first couple of season he was in Houston's organization because he feared the Astros wouldn't sign him if they knew how old he was.
 
Baron Scicluna said:
Wandy Rodriguez might have something to worry about. In an SI interview recently, he revealed that he used a friend's identity the first couple of season he was in Houston's organization because he feared the Astros wouldn't sign him if they knew how old he was.

Along those lines, I think Tony Oliva is technically in this country illegally (or at least was originally). He used his younger brother's passport when he signed with the Twins so they would think he was 18, rather than 21.
 
Boom_70 said:
Nah not really but this dumb new law is sure to wrongly grab someone notable and then it will hit the fan.
Why is passing a law that says "we're going to enforce the federal law" dumb?

What really seems dumb is that the feds aren't enforcing the original law in the first place.
 
old_tony said:
Boom_70 said:
Nah not really but this dumb new law is sure to wrongly grab someone notable and then it will hit the fan.
Why is passing a law that says "we're going to enforce the federal law" dumb?

What really seems dumb is that the feds aren't enforcing the original law in the first place.

That's not what the law is. The law is a mess, and will be tossed on Constitutional grounds. It will also be incredibly expensive for the state, as it gives anyone the right to sue any agency that they think isn't doing enough to crack down on illegal immigrants.

As for your second point, we desperately need immigration reform and real enforcement of the borders. The situation in Arizona is very bad and increasingly dangerous, and the blame rests with the federal refusal to take real action to secure the border. That's what led to a very understandable desire in Arizona to find a way to fight in on their own. But having said all that... this law is not the way to do it.
 
I'm just a little disappointed that people don't call it the Arizona geezers' "Get the hell out of my yard!" law.
 

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