TSN baseball hire

[Mizzougrad96]

Geez, guys, this isn't that hard and it isn't that sinister. Mizzou is saying Milwaukee ought to hire one of the baseball guys being let go by Fanhouse. That would right the wrong Howard is doing by letting that guy go in order to replace him with Witrado.

Get it? A guy's out of a job because, in Mizzou's humble opinion, of Howard. Milwaukee should right that wrong by giving him a job.

Hey, Mizzou, that's how I read it. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

I'm saying Milwaukee should hire back one of the people who was let go during their layoffs. One of them would be perfect for this job.

 

[da man]

Geez, guys, this isn't that hard and it isn't that sinister. Mizzou is saying Milwaukee ought to hire one of the baseball guys being let go by Fanhouse. That would right the wrong Howard is doing by letting that guy go in order to replace him with Witrado.

Get it? A guy's out of a job because, in Mizzou's humble opinion, of Howard. Milwaukee should right that wrong by giving him a job.

Hey, Mizzou, that's how I read it. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

I'm saying Milwaukee should hire back one of the people who was let go during their layoffs. One of them would be perfect for this job.

I stand corrected. Sorry you had to get slammed for trying to be positive.

 

[dcdream]

I am all for re-hiring someone who got laid off. But it did not read that way to me. You know why. Because Garry Howard was was accused of the wrongs.
How is he wrong for laying off 17 people. He had to do it.

So the only interpretation I can see of righting one of Garry's wrongs was hiring Witrado over someone else.

Do you follow now?

 

[dcdream]

Remember this was Mizzou's original post

If there is any justice in this business, the JS will make the obvious baseball hire and right one of Howard's many wrongs.

 

[Riddick]

Based on what I read, it seems like Mizzou is the only person with a clue about the inner workings in Milwaukee. All of his posts make perfect sense to me without taking more than the slightest of jabs at anyone else.
With any luck, Milwaukee will be able to fill the vacant position and hopefully they'll look to someone with Brewers experience.

 

[Joe Williams]

When my old man was working and there were layoffs at factories and such, the people laid off were the ones called back when times got better.

Now businesses want to lay off one set of workers and, if they ever hire anyone back, they want them to be cheaper, younger and altogether different people.

That's worse than bush league.

 

[Versatile]

A big part of me wonders why someone who was laid off at one point would want to return to a company. Another part of me figures this industry is too fickle to have pride.

 

[Drip]

When my old man was working and there were layoffs at factories and such, the people laid off were the ones called back when times got better.

Now businesses want to lay off one set of workers and, if they ever hire anyone back, they want them to be cheaper, younger and altogether different people.

That's worse than bush league.

Joe, you hit it on the head. I think that's what's so puzzling about about this economic mess we're in. I think everyone knows that they are replaceable but this is just plain wrong. Great post.

 

[Mira]

If any of the laid off folks signed severance agreements or buyouts, there likely were clauses stating they could not and would not be re-hired by the publisher. I could be wrong.

I really would like to see ex-MJS reporters get shots at old gigs, but would be surprised if it is an option. They're all good (and extremely talented) people.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

A big part of me wonders why someone who was laid off at one point would want to return to a company. Another part of me figures this industry is too fickle to have pride.

You answered your own question. :D

 

[thegrifter]

A big part of me wonders why someone who was laid off at one point would want to return to a company. Another part of me figures this industry is too fickle to have pride.

**** pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps.
~Marsellus Wallace

 

[Joe Williams]

A big part of me wonders why someone who was laid off at one point would want to return to a company. Another part of me figures this industry is too fickle to have pride.

**** pride! Pride only hurts, it never helps.
~Marsellus Wallace

I enjoyed that.

I never understood the whole "You took a buyout, you can never work there again" mentality. Huh? You got paid for some of the weeks that you were out of work, so you're no longer an employable journalist to that enterprise? It's a non-sequitur.

Anyone considering a buyout needs to remember that when a small-business owner sells his operation, he gets some multiple of his annual revenues: Three, five, eight times the income as the purchase price. Journalists sell their businesses for peanuts -- a year or six months of wages and insurance.

Plus, apparently, they give up the right to ever work for that company again.

Though there probably would be publishers who might let you buy your way back in. If you repaid the money with interest. And then worked for a smaller salary. ::)

 

[Ben.Breiner]

I recall one story of a writer who took a buyout from his shop that was part of a Joint Operating Agreement. He immediately signed with the other, healthier paper in the JOA.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Hey, Mizzou, just come out and share with those of us who can't recall -- who got wronged in Milwaukee by Howard on the baseball beat? Who you propping up? Is there a chance that person could land back on the Brewers/MLB?

Rick Braun. Worked at the JS for 20+, maybe even 30+ years. He's covered just about every beat and he did an incredible job on the Brewers a few years back when Drew Olson left. He did a great job. Howard pulled him from the beat for no reason to replace him with some kid (I'm assuming Witrado) and put Braun on GA. Well, when the layoff fairy comes around, the GA guys are the first to go.

When Orlando hired Jeff Shain, I thought this was an example of a rare moment when things can work out in this business, even in this day and age. If Rick is hired back by the Journal-Sentinel, it will be another example of things working out the way they should.

We should all hope it happens.

 

[Drip]

Hey, Mizzou, just come out and share with those of us who can't recall -- who got wronged in Milwaukee by Howard on the baseball beat? Who you propping up? Is there a chance that person could land back on the Brewers/MLB?

Rick Braun. Worked at the JS for 20+, maybe even 30+ years. He's covered just about every beat and he did an incredible job on the Brewers a few years back when Drew Olson left. He did a great job. Howard pulled him from the beat for no reason to replace him with some kid (I'm assuming Witrado) and put Braun on GA. Well, when the layoff fairy comes around, the GA guys are the first to go.

When Orlando hired Jeff Shain, I thought this was an example of a rare moment when things can work out in this business, even in this day and age. If Rick is hired back by the Journal-Sentinel, it will be another example of things working out the way they should.

We should all hope it happens.

Mizzou, obviously, there was a reason why Howard pulled him. I'm sure Garry had a reason for making the move. Perhaps he felt that he was more valuable as a GA.

 

[Mira]

Ricky would do a great job with whatever beat he covered. Good writer, good guy.

 

[Joe Williams]

I'm sure Garry had a reason for making the move.

Wow, that's so helpful, Drip.

Of course Garry had a reason. But a job title doesn't make a reason right. It doesn't make it just. Given the board's many critical opinions on SE Howard, there is a great likelihood that it was a poor decision.

None of which should get in the way of rooting for someone to land back in a job that he reportedly did well, was happy doing and did for quite a while.

 

[Cigar56]

I'm sure Garry had a reason for making the move.

Wow, that's so helpful, Drip.

Of course Garry had a reason. But a job title doesn't make a reason right. It doesn't make it just. Given the board's many critical opinions on SE Howard, there is a great likelihood that it was a poor decision.

None of which should get in the way of rooting for someone to land back in a job that he reportedly did well, was happy doing and did for quite a while.

"Given the board's many critical opinions on SE Howard, there is a great likelihood that it was a poor decision."

Joe:

Really, as a journalist you would make a claim like that, based solely on undocumented Internet postings by anonymous writers?

I mean, come on.

 

[Joe Williams]

I'm sure Garry had a reason for making the move.

Wow, that's so helpful, Drip.

Of course Garry had a reason. But a job title doesn't make a reason right. It doesn't make it just. Given the board's many critical opinions on SE Howard, there is a great likelihood that it was a poor decision.

None of which should get in the way of rooting for someone to land back in a job that he reportedly did well, was happy doing and did for quite a while.

"Given the board's many critical opinions on SE Howard, there is a great likelihood that it was a poor decision."

Joe:

Really, as a journalist you would make a claim like that, based solely on undocumented Internet postings by anonymous writers?

I mean, come on.

Felt it was more reasonable than Drip pronouncing that, hey, Howard had a reason for making the move. No bleep, Sherlock. It could have been good, it could have been bad. From all I've heard (and witnessed), I'd bet on bad.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

It's been well-established that Drip and Howard are friends.