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bagelchick said:
the turn around in NYC can be less than 24 hours especially if they arrive into Grand Central late.

Amtrak trains don't go into Grand Central Station.
 
Nope, Penn Station. Which means you can get wherever you need to go without even going outside until you get there if you want. :)
 
My wife and I took the train once on a trip we do often and where we usually drive. It was a nice change of pace, but driving is faster, and Amtrak offers one departure a day each way, so you're pretty much stuck with their schedule. Every time we're planning the trip we look at taking the train, but it really makes no sense to for us.
 
MacDaddy said:
My wife and I took the train once on a trip we do often and where we usually drive. It was a nice change of pace, but driving is faster, and Amtrak offers one departure a day each way, so you're pretty much stuck with their schedule. Every time we're planning the trip we look at taking the train, but it really makes no sense to for us.

I've looked at train travel for a number of trips, and at those prices and with that schedule, it really makes no sense to me, either. Takes up half of your vacation just to get anywhere, especially out West.

Which is sad, because otherwise I'd love to travel by train more.
 
buckweaver said:
MacDaddy said:
My wife and I took the train once on a trip we do often and where we usually drive. It was a nice change of pace, but driving is faster, and Amtrak offers one departure a day each way, so you're pretty much stuck with their schedule. Every time we're planning the trip we look at taking the train, but it really makes no sense to for us.

I've looked at train travel for a number of trips, and at those prices and with that schedule, it really makes no sense to me, either. Takes up half of your vacation just to get anywhere, especially out West.

Which is sad, because otherwise I'd love to travel by train more.

Yeah, I mean what kind of idiot would use ground transportation to go across the country?
 
The one train trip I took was on the Eurorail in the mid-1980s. I don't remember it being all that expensive. I do remember having designs on taking in the German countryside, but the train rocked me to sleep. Best sleep I've had in my adult life. I've pondered taking a trip on Amtrak but it's prohibitively expensive.
 
There is no plausible business plan that would make Amtrak viable outside of a few business units linking high-density metropolitan corridors. Forget freight congestion, track upgrades, poor service -- train travel began its decline with the rise of jet travel and interstate highways after WW2. When Washington switched mail from trains to planes in 1968, that was the last nail in the coffin for privately-operated passenger service, and the beginnings of Amtrak.

Europeans grew up with most people living in large cities with little use for highways, thus the development of high-speed interurban rail service. It's not a good comparison for the U.S.

Railroads are incredibly capital-intensive, low-margin businesses. They are remarkably efficient for hauling coal, lumber, chemicals and other commodities long distances -- but not people.
 
goalmouth said:
There is no plausible business plan that would make Amtrak viable outside of a few business units linking high-density metropolitan corridors. Forget freight congestion, track upgrades, poor service -- train travel began its decline with the rise of jet travel and interstate highways after WW2. When Washington switched mail from trains to planes in 1968, that was the last nail in the coffin for privately-operated passenger service, and the beginnings of Amtrak.

Europeans grew up with most people living in large cities with little use for highways, thus the development of high-speed interurban rail service. It's not a good comparison for the U.S.

Railroads are incredibly capital-intensive, low-margin businesses. They are remarkably efficient for hauling coal, lumber, chemicals and other commodities long distances -- but not people.

Not to mention . . . look at a map of Europe.

Look at a map of the U. S.

Them wide-open spaces are expensive to cover.
 
The train is an efficient way of traveling in the Northeast. Cost effective too.

I dropped my folks off at BWI on my way to Philly and then NYC last week. Took the New Jersey Transit to the city from Trenton. Round trip, $21. Parking (two days), $18. A lot less headaches, at least for me.

If you want a picturesque train ride, go from L.A. to San Diego sometime. Spectacular.

Amtrak has its issues, but sometimes it makes sense.
 

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