Tough luck, RU

[spnited]

I repeat suburbia,


SCHIANO IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE!

 

[wickedwritah]

I think Schiano stays.

His situation at RU is very akin to what Paterno did at UPS.

"What can Paterno's brownshirts do for you?" Never knew he changed careers. :D

And I'm with spnited. Schiano stays there. ONLY way he leaves Joisey is when Paterno retires and IF no one on staff (read: Tom Bradley) gets the gig.

(And this is just a gut feeling, but I think Paterno never coaches another game after the Outback Bowl. The leg injury may have knocked some sense into him.)

 

[wickedwritah]

By the way, Suburbia, New Jersey is one of the top five states in terms of high school talent. He has another season or two like this, and he'll be able to get anyone from the Northeast he wants. It'll be like Penn State back in the 1970s and 1980s; he'll have Jersey to Maine all locked up.

 

[murciélago]

What a huge dump taken by the Rutgers defense in overtime. Good lord.

 

[wickedwritah]

College football overtime is like softball extra innings, when they start with a runner on second base. It's a bull****, mickey mouse way to end a game.

 

[write then drink]

I hate OT in CFB. Seriously. Play it like you played the first four quarters or go back to ties.

definitely

that ain't football

no way to determine which is the better team

 

[MCEchan36]

I think Schiano stays.

His situation at RU is very akin to what Paterno did at UPS, Schnellenerger at Miami, and Bowden at FSU.

Essentially created a major program at a small school.

Except that Miami and Florida State are in football hotbeds where it is very easy to recruit the kind of talent needed to maintain the level Rutgers finally reached this year.

And don't forget that Miami is going to throw a whole lot of cash at Schiano. Will Rutgers be able to match that amount?

I would not be surprised one bit if Schiano cashes in his chips and gets out of Dodge.

And NJ ISN'T a recruiting hotbed? Where did Dwayne Jarrett come from? And isn't the top OL recruit in the nation from Piscataway? NJ doesn't have the volume of people like Florida, Texas or California, but I think they send out a good number of kids to top programs for its population.

 

[Webster]

Brian Leonard came back to play in a big game like the Texas Bowl.

And Schiano isn't going anywhere. In a couple of years, there could be a possibility. But he is building a big time program and would look like a huge ass if he bails now after what they have commited for him.

 

[wickedwritah]

If Schiano manages to keep even half the talented kids in-state, they'll be a top-10 program annually.

As MCEchan said, they don't have the talent depth, but there are plenty of really good kids who come from Jersey. Provided Al Golden doesn't get too much of a foothold in suburban Philly/eastern Pennsylvania, that area's also ripe for the picking since Penn State has been slacking there somewhat. Only major gets there in recent years for PSU have been Dan Connor and Pat Devlin.

 

[suburbia]

Brian Leonard came back to play in a big game like the Texas Bowl.

And Schiano isn't going anywhere. In a couple of years, there could be a possibility. But he is building a big time program and would look like a huge ass if he bails now after what they have commited for him.

He wouldn't be the first one to do something like that, and he wouldn't be the last.

 

[sartrean]

College football overtime is like softball extra innings, when they start with a runner on second base. It's a bull****, mickey mouse way to end a game.

I concur. They should play a seven minute, thirty-second extra period. The team that kicked off last to start a half should receive the ball in the OT period.

I was at the Ole Miss-Arkansas game in 2001 that went five OTs. The OT periods as played in that game lasted nearly as long as regulation did. Cheerleaders quit cheering after the second overtime. They just sat on the sidelines. Fans quit cheering by the fourth overtime. It was exhausting and it blew my deadline. All I had the next morning was the final and an 8" recap.

That overtime caused me to work Sunday, most of the day, to get our game package set for Monday's sports. It was the biggest Monday sports at that small daily ever. And I had the obligatory column on how OT sucks in college football.

 

[sartrean]

I meant to add in my above post that those decrying the NCAA and BCS alliance should also decry the overtime format. It's much more damaging to the sport than is the lack of a playoff.

Even if there were a playoff system in D1, people would still be bitching about how its unfair. And somewhere, somebody would be responsible for determining which teams are in the playoff each year. I think a playoff would give us Michigan, USC, Ohio State, Florida, Texas, LSU and Oklahoma every year, plus a few wildcard-type teams that would be seeded against the No. 1s and No. 2s in the nation.

People would be bitching.

 

[Hammer Pants]

College football overtime is like softball extra innings, when they start with a runner on second base. It's a bull****, mickey mouse way to end a game.

I concur. They should play a seven minute, thirty-second extra period. The team that kicked off last to start a half should receive the ball in the OT period.

I was at the Ole Miss-Arkansas game in 2001 that went five OTs. The OT periods as played in that game lasted nearly as long as regulation did. Cheerleaders quit cheering after the second overtime. They just sat on the sidelines. Fans quit cheering by the fourth overtime. It was exhausting and it blew my deadline. All I had the next morning was the final and an 8" recap.

That overtime caused me to work Sunday, most of the day, to get our game package set for Monday's sports. It was the biggest Monday sports at that small daily ever. And I had the obligatory column on how OT sucks in college football.

I've covered a five OT and a six OT game, and the fans (at two different stadiums) were really loud the entire time.

 

[Ralph Waldo Henderson]

Also, don't forget that Maryland had a season like this (and in their case actually made the Orange Bowl) a few years ago. The Terps haven't come close to that level, let alone exceed it, since.

Simply put, top college football talent won't come to the Northeast in very large quantities. And without that, you can't sustain the level of success that Rutgers and Wake Forest had this year long term. Even Penn State doesn't make big-time bowl games every year anymore.

In defense of my alma mater ... Maryland, after going to the Orange Bowl, did win the Peach Bowl and the Gator Bowl the next two years, winning 10 games all three of those years. But the point is taken.

 

[wickedwritah]

Friedgen won with many of Vanderlinden's players and a few juco kids tossed in. He seems to have had middling success with his own recruits.

Schiano is winning with his OWN players. Players HE recruited. He has built the thing from bottom up. He took his lumps early on, and he easily could've been canned after last year had they not gotten to a bowl game. He didn't take the quick, easy way out by raiding the jucos, a la Bill Snyder. That's why I don't think he'll be as quick to leave as people like suburbia think.

What great jobs are out there right now? Miami is a mess, with substandard facilities and some internal issues. Alabama, well, that's been covered in the Shula thread. The only jobs I see opening up this year that Schiano even would consider are Penn State if Paterno decides to hang it up and USC were Pete Carroll to be stupid enough to go for Round 3 in the NFL with the Cardinals.

 

[MCEchan36]

OK, now that everyone knows Rutgers is a legit program and it won't be sneaking up on anyone, will they get to a BCS bowl next year, presuming they get a similar performance next year?

 

[suburbia]

OK, now that everyone knows Rutgers is a legit program and it won't be sneaking up on anyone, will they get to a BCS bowl next year, presuming they get a similar performance next year?

If Schiano stays, they upgrade the schedule (which did drag them down), and the players learn how to handle success, then yes, it's possible. The only major loss on offense that I know of is Leonard; Rice and Teel both return, and I don't think they'll lose that much on defense either.

But Louisville and West Virginia aren't going anywhere, so winning the Big East, will be daunting. And the league's strength is such that an at-large BCS bid is still going to be very unlikely.

And all of this is dependant on Schiano actually staying, which I'll believe when the press conference is held.

 

[Armchair_QB]

I repeat suburbia,


SCHIANO IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE!

I repeat suburbia,


SCHIANO IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE until the Penn State job opens up!

 

[wickedwritah]

Armchair, while PSU would benefit greatly from Schiano's connections in the Northeast, I don't think he's got a legit shot. Tom Bradley should be the guy. He's a great recruiter and shown his chops since Sandusky retired. His defenses generally have been stout. Paterno's making the choice, and I think they're staying inside the family tree for that one, when it happens.

If PSU were to go outside the program, Schiano and Randy Edsall (Pennsylvania native) could be high up on that list.

 

[D-3 Fan]

The other RU question, which came up earlier on some thread somewhere (OK, I've lost track of all the FB threads), is Schiano's future.
SCHIANO IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE!

Miami will come calling on Monday, by which time Rutgers already will have begun renegotiating the 7-year extension he signed after last season. He will get a nice raise, he will get the stadium expansion from low 40,000s to about 61,000, he will get anything else he asks for.
Trust me, the new package already is being worked on and in fact could be presented to Schiano as early as Monday morning...before Miami makes its official contact with him.

FACT!

I think Schiano stays.

His situation at RU is very akin to what Paterno did at UPS, Schnellenerger at Miami, and Bowden at FSU.

Essentially created a major program at a small school.

Rip Engel laid a foundation for Penn State, JoePa built it.