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[heyabbott]

Sports of The Times
The Case for a Second Chance for Michael Vick

By WILLIAM C. RHODEN
Published: May 16, 2009
Later this week, Michael Vick, once the N.F.L.’s most exciting player, will leave a federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., to serve the final two months of his sentence in home confinement in Hampton, Va....

Vick’s world went to pieces in December 2007 when he was sentenced to 23 months in federal prison after he admitted bankrolling a dogfighting ring....

For all of Goodell’s talk about remorse, Vick deserves a second chance, and the commissioner knows it. The only question that remains is whether the N.F.L. will do the right thing and welcome Vick back into the fold.


Most exciting? put down the brown bag with the Thunderbird bottle Billy and sober up. No One missed Vick, on any level, and he's not as exciting as waiting in traffic to see the fender bender causing a 5 mile back up.

Bankrolling a dogfighting ring? could you minimize his involvement any more you mush mouthed fool.

Deserves a second chance? as in another opportunity is owed to Michael Vick?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/sports/football/17rhoden.html

 

[dooley_womack1]

I'm trying to read between the lines here, but I'm guessing you're leaning toward disagreeing with Mr. Rhoden?

 

[The Big Ragu]

I'm trying to read between the lines here, but I'm guessing you're leaning toward disagreeing with Mr. Rhoden?

Or maybe he agrees, but he needs to put down the Manischewitz bottle and sober up.

 

[Trouser_Buddah]

I'm curious how he knows that Goodell knows that Vick deserves a second chance.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Abbott saved me the trouble.

Another remarkable cabana-boy column.

Spare me.


Hell, it's all right with me if he plays.

But any franchise who throws anything more than dog-track money at him is stone nuts.

He can take a team so far -- and no further.

 

[slappy4428]

I'm trying to read between the lines here, but I'm guessing you're leaning toward disagreeing with Mr. Rhoden?

Or maybe he agrees, but he needs to put down the Manischewitz bottle and sober up.

You two are the most observant pair on here... I bow to your collective wisdom

 

[zagoshe]

Most exciting? put down the brown bag with the Thunderbird bottle Billy and sober up. No One missed Vick, on any level, and he's not as exciting as waiting in traffic to see the fender bender causing a 5 mile back up.

As dumb as you think this column is -- this statement is even dumber. And by a lot. It is also not honest and the kind of silly hyperbole which shows you are either (a) a racist, and thus an idiot (b) a dog lover, and thus way to emotionally wrapped in this to be remotely credible or (c) you hate the Falcons because you are a fan boy of some other team in that division, and thus you have no credibility.

Either way, I don't know if the guy was the most exciting player in the league, but he was extremely exciting to watch, particularly those games when he took over with his legs - or like the Steelers game when they tied - he was clearly the most exciting player on the field those days.

You don't have to like the guy or root for the guy or even think he was a good quarterback -- but when you make ridiculous comments like this, well, you make yourself sound like a clueless idiot who has never watched a football game.

Bankrolling a dogfighting ring? could you minimize his involvement any more you mush mouthed fool.

I'm not even sure what you are upset about here, well other than you needed another reason to slobber and slam keys about how evil Michael Vick was.

Deserves a second chance? as in another opportunity is owed to Michael Vick?

Deserves a second chance? Yes, he does given the bar which has been set -- Pac Man Jones, half the Bengals roster, Leonard Little -- by the NFL in terms of the people who that league has granted second chances.

 

[KevinmH9]

The planets must be aligning or something because I can't say I disagree with anything that Zag just pointed out.

 

[Starman]

He slaughtered dogs with his bare hands.

The thug cannot be legally prevented from playing, but every animal-rights organization should hold the gun right at the head of the "family-friendly" NFL with threats of screaming, raging, fire-throwing protests if he sets foot on the field. And cc all the advertisers.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Michael Vick

2007 DNP
2008 DNP

 

[Football_Bat]

I'm not going to give Rhoden the excuse of ignorance.

He knows exactly what he wrote.

And why he wrote it.

 

[heyabbott]

Matt Ryan > Killa Vick

 

[zagoshe]

He slaughtered dogs with his bare hands.

The thug cannot be legally prevented from playing, but every animal-rights organization should hold the gun right at the head of the "family-friendly" NFL with threats of screaming, raging, fire-throwing protests if he sets foot on the field. And cc all the advertisers.

As disgusting as that is, it is still not worse (it may be as bad, but it ain't worse) than killing people, beating up your wife, being a millionaire and failing to pay your child support or acknowledge your kids and a whole host of other crimes that a number of people playing currently in in recent history have on their sheet.....

 

[93Devil]

After two years out of the league, what type of player are we talking about here? A backup QB? A slot receiver? A third-down back?

Is he a starting QB next year or the year after? If not, is he really worth all the bull****?

 

[zagoshe]

After two years out of the league, what type of player are we talking about here? A backup QB? A slot receiver? A third-down back?

Is he a starting QB next year or the year after? If not, is he really worth all the bull****?

He may not be able to make a roster - that means nothing to this discussion.

The point is, he should have the chance to prove he can no longer player, especially given the overwhelming precedence in the NFL for giving guys like Lawrence Phillips and Jason Peters second and third chances.

 

[93Devil]

Sure, he should be allowed a chance. But any team would be bat**** crazy to have him in their facilities.

The XFL was just five years too soon.

 

[GB-Hack]

After two years out of the league, what type of player are we talking about here? A backup QB? A slot receiver? A third-down back?

Is he a starting QB next year or the year after? If not, is he really worth all the bull****?

He may not be able to make a roster - that means nothing to this discussion.

The point is, he should have the chance to prove he can no longer player, especially given the overwhelming precedence in the NFL for giving guys like Lawrence Phillips and Jason Peters second and third chances.

Wow, you came around on that quickly.

 

[zagoshe]

After two years out of the league, what type of player are we talking about here? A backup QB? A slot receiver? A third-down back?

Is he a starting QB next year or the year after? If not, is he really worth all the bull****?

He may not be able to make a roster - that means nothing to this discussion.

The point is, he should have the chance to prove he can no longer player, especially given the overwhelming precedence in the NFL for giving guys like Lawrence Phillips and Jason Peters second and third chances.

Wow, you came around on that quickly.

Came around on what?

I think not only will he make a roster, he'll be a starter again because the state of quarterback play in the NFL is awful.

My point to Devil was simply "OK, fine, say the guy sucks ass and he can't play a lick and doesn't make a roster -- that is irrelevant to this discussion."

 

[GB-Hack]

Ah, so you'll hedge it, just in case.

 

[zagoshe]

Ah, so you'll hedge it, just in case.

No.

But nice try.