The Wire: Episode 47

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First off, let me say I watch the show two to three times on Tivo, but damn Double Down, you must take notes like it's a football game. I don't know what kind of sports writer you are, but I truly think you missed your calling. You should be a TV or movie critic.

On some of the points brought up here:

I still don't know if Michael was molested. I know obviously everything is laid out there, but is this the first sign that we see a dark side from him. Is his true prelude to being a master of the game and the streets that he pulled one over on everybody -- letting them believe he was molested -- just to get what he wanted, which is control of the house, because that's the only way he will know for sure that his little brother is taken care of in the best possible way. By him.

As smart as this writer is, a drastic plot twist would not be out of the question.

And speaking of plot twists, I'm convinced now that Michael and Namond are about to head down opposite roads. With Bunny seeing what Namond comes from, I almost think that he will somehow save him. And if what everybody else says, Michael will get into the game.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Omar will bring Marlo down, sending him to prison, not killing him, like he has done with other major players. I've always thought it, from the time Omar had that quote in the courtroom ... I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
I've always liked Omar (just not in the way Omar might like me).

Among the others I've always liked is Slim Charles. I don't know if he'll be the next ruler or not, but I'm rooting for him. He's just too close to Prop Joe not to turn into a major player.

It's amazing how the show can make us find compasion in those that on the outside look so heartless. We've obviously seen it in Chris, beating down the stepdad for Michael. I think he showed it to us in Marlo, too, more than once. For some reason I want to believe he sent Chris and Snoop out to do the stepdad because he felt sorry for the kid. Not because he felt like it would be a way for Michael to feel like he would then owe him something.

Also, he more or less lets Randy off the hook and decided to off Little Kevin instead. He could have easily had both of them killed. Instead, he decided (in a round about way) teach Randy a lesson putting the snitch word out on the street. I refuse to believe there's nothing that Randy can't weasel his way out of. He'll live, but only because ...

When Bunk finds out that Herc is worthless, he'll then scoop Randy up before he is harmed. However, we may lose contact with him on the show. I just see them putting him in a witness relocation foster home.
 
I'llnevertell, I have a friend in LA who swears Michael wasn't molested, too. I don't buy it. Simon doesn't write that way (I could be dead wrong).

I was convinced that Namond might go on the straight... Now I'm not so sure...
 
There's enough in Michael's body language--recoiling from every touch by the stepdad--not to mention never wanting to leave his little brother and the stepdad alone for even a second that strongly suggests he was molested.
 
Yeah I definitely think he was molested, but like I said a while back I like that they never actually confirm it in anyway. Leave it twisting out there just enough. I don't think it's part of some major plot twist, I don't even think it'll ever be resolved, and it's better that way. Most shows would have Chris go to Michael and tell him he knows what he's been through, but that's not real and so obviously this show would never go there.

As for the stepdad, I can't fathom him surviving that beating. He got smashed in the face with a pistol at least a dozen times, probably two dozen. It's a little surprising that they didn't put a bullet into him just to make sure, but the fact that they didn't seems to indicate that he was definitely dead.

Jason I like some of the links you've made from the young kids to the older players from the past, but I think you might take some of it too far (i.e. the potential trial with Michael's stepdad). I feel like these writers are showing some of where these guys come from as kids but I don't think they're going to go to mirror storylines. I could be wrong, but just my 2 cents.
 
Couple things.

Michael was molested. Otherwise, why the Cutty stuff? He wouldn't need to fake that to get over on Marlowe.

Bug's dad is dead, and Chris was molested. First time he's ever deviated from being a completely pragmatic hitter. In an odd way, it humanized him. And then showed Snoop as the true sociopath.
 
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Zeke12 said:
Couple things.

Michael was molested. Otherwise, why the Cutty stuff? He wouldn't need to fake that to get over on Marlowe.

Bug's dad is dead, and Chris was molested. First time he's ever deviated from being a completely pragmatic hitter. In an odd way, it humanized him. And then showed Snoop as the true sociopath.

You sure Snoop just wasn't stunned and tried to cover up her reaction like acting it was nothing, or is she what you said: a complete sociopathic killer?
 
Complete and total sociopath.

It's odd, because I really did feel like that beating -- which almost made my girlfriend sick -- made Chris more human and (almost) likable.

It also cemented Snoop as totally heartless.

Damn fine episode. It ranks right up there.
 
The Good Doctor said:
Boobie Miles said:
After 47 how many eps are left? Is it 48 and 49, or 48,49 and 50?

Three episodes after 47.
Thanks... and awesome. This is the first season I've watched the show regularly (not a chunk at a time one DVDs) and it's so hard waiting for the next one each week (I don't do the OnDemand thing because I watch the show at my buddy's house, so it's a Sunday night ritual now after football).
I can't wait til the season is over to go back and blow through the season ondemand in a few days.
 
Zeke12 said:
Complete and total sociopath.

It's odd, because I really did feel like that beating -- which almost made my girlfriend sick -- made Chris more human and (almost) likable.

It also cemented Snoop as totally heartless.

Damn fine episode. It ranks right up there.
That what I was trying to say about Chris way back in this thread. And to expand, he's a killer the way we're sportswriters (maybe not the best analogy) but it's his job and he does it for a living. He's able to stay detached from what he's doing and do it well, and then at this time you see that there really is a person in there and you could feel where he was coming from.
I'm not sold on Snoop. I think there may be something to do the covering up her shock, because her reaction during the beating seemed like she was pretty shocked and blown away by what Chris was doing.
 
So in other words,c hris was churning out 12-inch HS football gamers that were gleamingly clean but lacked any kind of passion or verve and then one day he walked in to the office, dropped "Howl" on his editor's desk and walked out?

I kind of like that analogy.
 
All I can say after seeing 48 is that I honestly have no idea what is going to happen in the final 2 episodes, but, as Jason said, there's a lot of **** to pack in.

Also, the previews never give an accurate reading of what really happens, much like in The Sopranos.
 
hey, some of my stuff is just predictions.... i.e. omar as willie horton, the stepdad being a witness....and predictions are like a holes...everybody has one....

the stuff about simon telling avon, wee-bey and stringer's backstory through michael, randy and namond is more than a prediction.

my latest prediction is that marlo gets whacked (michael/bodie) and the police pin the vacant murders on chris and snoop thanks to the testimony of michael's not-dead stepdaddy..... i say chris and snoop beat the case...
 
jason_whitlock said:
hey, some of my stuff is just predictions.... i.e. omar as willie horton, the stepdad being a witness....and predictions are like a holes...everybody has one....

the stuff about simon telling avon, wee-bey and stringer's backstory through michael, randy and namond is more than a prediction.

my latest prediction is that marlo gets whacked (michael/bodie) and the police pin the vacant murders on chris and snoop thanks to the testimony of michael's not-dead stepdaddy..... i say chris and snoop beat the case...

I hope they're just predictions. But didn't you post once about seeing the entire season before the first episode premiered? Or was that just the first few episodes?
 
jason_whitlock said:
hey, some of my stuff is just predictions.... i.e. omar as willie horton, the stepdad being a witness....and predictions are like a holes...everybody has one....

the stuff about simon telling avon, wee-bey and stringer's backstory through michael, randy and namond is more than a prediction.

my latest prediction is that marlo gets whacked (michael/bodie) and the police pin the vacant murders on chris and snoop thanks to the testimony of michael's not-dead stepdaddy..... i say chris and snoop beat the case...
Yeah I wasn't criticizing your prediction, I just didn't agree with that one. The one with the backstories is obviously solid, although there were a few glimpses of the last episode of Michael as Chris a little too. As has been said before, these kids probably aren't supposed to be exact mirror images of older characters, but just a composite way of showing how those characters became who they were.

Marlo's got to get his, tough to call who is going to do it yet. Can see that happening in the last episode setting up the beginning of the next season as a bit of a power struggle/changing of the guard.

And Stupid, I always feel that way with this show, that there are so many storylines it's tough to see how they can get resolved in just a few episodes. When new storylines develop late in the season I almost get annoyed because I just want to see the ones that have been going all season get resolved, but that's the brilliance of the show that it never stops churning and doesn't give the viewer a chance to catch their breath. I wish with every season that the finale was two hours so things could get a little more time, but that's probably my only complaint with this entire series, and it's a minor one.
 
I have a strong feeling that Marlo doesn't get whacked, but not for a lack of trying. I really think that Omar is going to some how set-up Marlo for a big fall. Why else would he be stalking him and taking notes? The most likely scenario is that Omar finds out about the vacant bodies, puts 2 and 2 together somehow, and hands the situation over to Bunk near the end of the last episode, setting up for a huge ****-show for Season 5. Michael is definitely going to firing off a few rounds, but take your pic at it being either Marlo or Randy (my pick). Carcetti knows he can't oust Burrell, so possibly Rawls will get the axe in wake of the discovery of the vacant bodies.
 
It seemed from the preview for 48 that Freamon and Bunk come upon the vacants on their own. Granted it was a 2 second clip but it just seemed like one of them ran their hand over a nail on the door and things started to add up. Don't tell me if I'm right/wrong if you've already seen it.
 
How are these episodes available? I have Comcast digital, so would I be able to have at these?
 
Stupid said:
All I can say after seeing 48 is that I honestly have no idea what is going to happen in the final 2 episodes, but, as Jason said, there's a lot of **** to pack in.
"As Jason said".....

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

That's how da **** roles in the SJ Western District, I guess.
 

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