the anti-Whitlock

[henryhenry]

Shaun Powell plays it down the middle - no agendas. No self-promotion. Just sharp insightful writing.

http://www.sportsmediaguide.com/10262006-ShaunPowell.html

 

[Columbo]

Shaun Powell plays it down the middle - no agendas. No self-promotion. Just sharp insightful writing.

http://www.sportsmediaguide.com/10262006-ShaunPowell.html

And no shtick, as Jason called his being critical on LeBaRe's show today.

I don't THINK that shtick is the word there... at least I hope not.

I infer from that that you don't mean what you are writing.

 

[henryhenry]

Powell covers sports. Whitlock covers media - and himself.

 

[BYH]

Yeah but what good are you if you're not a former football player who writes about the Gold Room and the pimp hand you administer as you work the corners?

Whitlock = clown

 

[shockey]

shaun's one of the best, as a person and a sports columnist. 8) 8) 8)

 

[jason_whitlock]

what does shaun powell's blog interview have to do with me? i mean, this is freaking ridiculous.

 

[Columbo]

what does shaun powell's blog interview have to do with me? i mean, this is freaking ridiculous.

Shtick?

So... you really aren't ripping The Dwarf, Scoop et al?

 

[SF_Express]

I'm still waiting for the thread that says there are all sorts of voices in this business, there are readerships (both those who like and those who hate) for every one of them -- running the gamut from Dave Anderson to Scoop Jackson -- and that I have yet to hear of a person who was permanently disfigured by an opinion or the style in which it is expressed.

It would say that editors need to be open to providing forums to new ideas and styles and people of all ethnic and social and gender backgrounds, and that somebody who refuses to allow somebody to speak to this demographic or that because he or she doesn't talk or think that way is simply limiting his or her readership in the most competitive time in media history.

It would say that a lot of crap on here lately criticizing people who are getting or already have great opportunities is jealousy, no matter how hard they try to deny it.

It would conclude that columnists you like and those who don't is a personal thing, and why people get so bent out of shape over the ones they don't like is a complete mystery.

Not that I'm expecting to see that thread anytime soon.

(This isn't about Powell, a class act. This is that there's also room for Whitlock, who goes about things a different way. Why do people have such a hard time with that?)

 

[PeteyPirate]

Based on the complaints of the Whitlock haters here, I would think the anti-Whitlock would be a white supremacist.

 

[jason_whitlock]

shtick: one's special interest, talent, etc.

 

[jason_whitlock]

Powell covers sports. Whitlock covers media - and himself.

good that you bring this up when powell spends a great deal of time in the blog interview covering the media....

are you really this freaking stupid? or are you just here to humor me?

 

[Frank_Ridgeway]

I've worked with Shaun, edited him. Long before he became a columnist, he was a terrific beat guy. Clean, fast, professional, competitive, hard-working, great to deal with, probably the only writer I regularly edited that I never caught in a factual error. One of my all-time favorites, although he probably wouldn't know it.

I don't think it's fair to put him and Whitlock as polar opposites, though. They have vastly different styles, but I would guess Whitlock works pretty hard, too.

 

[Dave Kindred]

Powell's interview ought to be required reading for everybody in our business.

Marantz is doing a good thing with that Sports Media Guide. It's kind of a mini-"No Cheering in the Press Box."

 

[Bruhman]

I'm still waiting for the thread that says there are all sorts of voices in this business, there are readerships (both those who like and those who hate) for every one of them -- running the gamut from Dave Anderson to Scoop Jackson -- and that I have yet to hear of a person who was permanently disfigured by an opinion or the style in which it is expressed.

It would say that editors need to be open to providing forums to new ideas and styles and people of all ethnic and social and gender backgrounds, and that somebody who refuses to allow somebody to speak to this demographic or that because he or she doesn't talk or think that way is simply limiting his or her readership in the most competitive time in media history.

It would say that a lot of crap on here lately criticizing people who are getting or already have great opportunities is jealousy, no matter how hard they try to deny it.

It would conclude that columnists you like and those who don't is a personal thing, and why people get so bent out of shape over the ones they don't like is a complete mystery.

Not that I'm expecting to see that thread anytime soon.

(This isn't about Powell, a class act. This is that there's also room for Whitlock, who goes about things a different way. Why do people have such a hard time with that?)

I second that emotion. Well said, SF.

 

[ballscribe]

Haven't you figured it out yet? This site is kind of like a virtual office.

Doesn't matter what your business does, the office is filled with backbiting, jealousy, rumours, and ripping down others so you can look better. This one is sleeping with the boss. That one is kissing the boss's behind. That's why they're getting promoted. It's rarely on people's own merits. And, sometimes, it's true.

Newspapers are notoriously bad places for this kind of stuff. It's one reason I'm thankful I only have to go in to have lunch with my boss or drop off my expenses. Nearly every time I stop in in the evening, the deskers are ripping the crap copy turned in by some of our writers. Or bitching about the photo department. Or something else. And I'm told it's the same thing in the other areas of the newspaper.

My lack of exposure to that is probably why I have such a positive, sunny attitude.

 

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What is the point of this? This one black guy writes one way, and that black guy writes another way you don't like as much, but because they're both black that creates a basis for comparison?

I would hope that every columnist with a voice is anti-every-other-columnist-with-a-voice. It's called being distinctive. Dave Kindred is the anti-whitlock, Selena Roberts is the anti-Mariotti, whitlock is the anti-Plaschke, Simers is the anti-Sally Jenkins. Duh.

 

[Double Down]

As usual, SF chimes in as the voice of intelligence and reason.

That's actually a really cool website for industry wonks like us. Lot of good interviews there.

Dave Kindred with a great interview there as well.

http://www.sportsmediaguide.com/09152006-DaveKindred.html

 

[Cosmo]

I'm still waiting for the thread that says there are all sorts of voices in this business, there are readerships (both those who like and those who hate) for every one of them -- running the gamut from Dave Anderson to Scoop Jackson -- and that I have yet to hear of a person who was permanently disfigured by an opinion or the style in which it is expressed.

It would say that editors need to be open to providing forums to new ideas and styles and people of all ethnic and social and gender backgrounds, and that somebody who refuses to allow somebody to speak to this demographic or that because he or she doesn't talk or think that way is simply limiting his or her readership in the most competitive time in media history.

It would say that a lot of crap on here lately criticizing people who are getting or already have great opportunities is jealousy, no matter how hard they try to deny it.

It would conclude that columnists you like and those who don't is a personal thing, and why people get so bent out of shape over the ones they don't like is a complete mystery.

Not that I'm expecting to see that thread anytime soon.

(This isn't about Powell, a class act. This is that there's also room for Whitlock, who goes about things a different way. Why do people have such a hard time with that?)

Good, there still is a reason to visit this site. Excellent, excellent, excellent post.

 

[Bubbler]

Wow. What a great site that is. Thanks for the link, DD, et al.

 

[Sportsbruh]

I respect Shaun Powell the person and the writer. Whereas, I don't respect jason at all.