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Double Down said:
As usual, SF chimes in as the voice of intelligence and reason.

That's actually a really cool website for industry wonks like us. Lot of good interviews there.

Dave Kindred with a great interview there as well.

http://www.sportsmediaguide.com/09152006-DaveKindred.html

Thanks for the link. Great stuff. Apparently, Gene Wojciechowski -- one of my faves, BTW -- checks out the site every now and then...

Q. Is sportsjournalists.com helpful?

A. I read it once in awhile but the fact that it's anonymous bothers me. So I don't take it seriously. If they used their names you could have a dialogue.
 
Trey Beamon said:
A. I read it once in awhile but the fact that it's anonymous bothers me. So I don't take it seriously. If they used their names you could have a dialogue.

Amusing. ;)
 
I guarantee that Woj is not taking seriously some people here who are way up from him on the prestige chain. Again, focus on the words, not the handles.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
I guarantee that Woj is not taking seriously some people here who are way up from him on the prestige chain. Again, focus on the words, not the handles.

Not to put too fine a point on it, Dooley, but really, there aren't very many in this biz who are "way up from" GW in terms of respect or where they're held in the pecking order or whatever.
 
I disagree, and to the sensitive folks, I'm not slamming him in that. I'm just saying there's a lot of good stuff he could get from here, if he didn't look down his nose at us.
 
dooley_womack1 said:
I disagree, and to the sensitive folks, I'm not slamming him in that. I'm just saying there's a lot of good stuff he could get from here, if he didn't look down his nose at us.

Well, that last part is a different deal.
 
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21 always makes this point, and I think it's a good one, so I'll try to paraphrase it here for Gene if he just so happens to be reading:

The fact that this site is anonymous is what allows it to thrive. And what makes it absolutely engaging when it comes to a variety of subjects. And it also makes it the most democratic exchange of ideas we can possibly have. Words, not resumes, matter. You don't know if you're arguing with a Pulitzer Prize winner, or a clerk at a 24,000 circulation weekly. You don't have to worry about whether a potential boss is going to hold a grudge for some innocuous comment you made about his high school football tab, or about George Bush's foreign policy approach. Yes, people abuse the cloak of anonymity, but for the most part, we do a pretty good job policing ourselves. You can't post naked pics. You can't say, I hear so-and-so is ****ing so-and-so and that's how he/she gets all their stories. You can't really pimp your friends (or your own) stuff from bum**** because you will be mercilessly taunted by the regulars here, who will sniff you out and call you a fraud in about three seconds. You choose how much you want to reveal about yourself, and you want to be Jason Whitlock, Michelle Kaufman, Chris Jones or Dave Kindred, awesome. We give their opinions more (or less) weight accordingly. But if we all used our names, this place would have about 11 posts per day. Plus, one of the most enjoyable parts of my time on here is watching no talent assclowns scream and rant and muther**** people who are legends in this business, but choose to remain anonymous to most of us, and then watch that same assclown praise that legendary writer on another thread and talk about how they're "one of my heroes." Cracks me up every time.

C'mon Woj. Join the party. You might learn something. Plus, the leeches out there who whine about the content on this site, yet don't register, don't post and just lurk, are beyond lame. It's like bitching about the president, but then confessing that you didn't even vote because it's beneath you.
 
Trey Beamon said:
Double Down said:
As usual, SF chimes in as the voice of intelligence and reason.

That's actually a really cool website for industry wonks like us. Lot of good interviews there.

Dave Kindred with a great interview there as well.

http://www.sportsmediaguide.com/09152006-DaveKindred.html

Thanks for the link. Great stuff. Apparently, Gene Wojciechowski -- one of my faves, BTW -- checks out the site every now and then...

Q. Is sportsjournalists.com helpful?

A. I read it once in awhile but the fact that it's anonymous bothers me. So I don't take it seriously. If they used their names you could have a dialogue.

But then that dialogue wouldn't include harsh, biting criticism.

You couldn't call someone a ****tard, or just tell them they suck.
 
... and frankly, through a night of professional PC, I like the opportunity to be able to call someone a ****tard ... or even to just tell them they suck.
 
See, that's why I love this place. I can be dissed by a pitcher with a 19-18 lifetime record. :P
 
I disagree, and to the sensitive folks, I'm not slamming him in that. I'm just saying there's a lot of good stuff he could get from here, if he didn't look down his nose at us.

It's not like anyone around here looks down their nose upon anyone or anything. ::)

The anonymity does make for some fun exchanges, but it also allows people to say things they would never have the guts to say if they used their real names (anonymous bravado is really annoying and at times cowardly) or were face-to-face with the person to whom their comments were addressed. It also makes people say some of the stupidest **** imaginable (most likely including a couple responses to what I just typed).
 
Double Down said:
[size=10pt]21 always makes this point, and I think it's a good one, so I'll try to paraphrase it here for Gene [size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt][/size][/size]if he just so happens to be reading:

The fact that this site is anonymous is what allows it to thrive. And what makes it absolutely engaging when it comes to a variety of subjects. And it also makes it the most democratic exchange of ideas we can possibly have. Words, not resumes, matter. You don't know if you're arguing with a Pulitzer Prize winner, or a clerk at a 24,000 circulation weekly. You don't have to worry about whether a potential boss is going to hold a grudge for some innocuous comment you made about his high school football tab, or about George Bush's foreign policy approach. Yes, people abuse the cloak of anonymity, but for the most part, we do a pretty good job policing ourselves. You can't post naked pics. You can't say, I hear so-and-so is ****ing so-and-so and that's how he/she gets all their stories. You can't really pimp your friends (or your own) stuff from bum**** because you will be mercilessly taunted by the regulars here, who will sniff you out and call you a fraud in about three seconds. You choose how much you want to reveal about yourself, and you want to be Jason Whitlock, Michelle Kaufman, Chris Jones or Dave Kindred, awesome. We give their opinions more (or less) weight accordingly. But if we all used our names, this place would have about 11 posts per day. Plus, one of the most enjoyable parts of my time on here is watching no talent assclowns scream and rant and muther**** people who are legends in this business, but choose to remain anonymous to most of us, and then watch that same assclown praise that legendary writer on another thread and talk about how they're "one of my heroes." Cracks me up every time.

C'mon Woj. Join the party. You might learn something. Plus, the leeches out there who whine about the content on this site, yet don't register, don't post and just lurk, are beyond lame. It's like bitching about the president, but then confessing that you didn't even vote because it's beneath you. [/size] [/size]

Freaking awesome post, DD. (stands and applauds). That's why I come to this site.
 
pallister said:
I disagree, and to the sensitive folks, I'm not slamming him in that. I'm just saying there's a lot of good stuff he could get from here, if he didn't look down his nose at us.

It's not like anyone around here looks down their nose upon anyone or anything. ::)

The anonymity does make for some fun exchanges, but it also allows people to say things they would never have the guts to say if they used their real names....

And that is a bad thing...how, precisely?
 
If you're not willing to put your name to something you say, how much credibility can it have? If you mean it, attach your name to it.
 

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