Thanks a lot ESPN

[LongTimeListener]

I think you need to go back to the column I quoted, where the writer said "we finally experienced authentic greatness" -- as in, like, the first time ever?!?!?! -- and it was "an achievement that actually meets our desire to experience events, sporting and otherwise, that we can rank among the most important of all time."

If you want to quibble with whether it is one of the top 50 sporting events of the year, fine. Maybe I am guilty of hyperbole (though any of the examples I cited, people would remember those far more than they'll remember this).

To act like this is some event of great cosmic sports significance -- "most important of all time" -- you must be emotionally beholden to either Coach K or the columnist.

 

[MileHigh]

The NFL lockout ending was a bigger deal than this.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

I think you need to go back to the column I quoted, where the writer said "we finally experienced authentic greatness" -- as in, like, the first time ever?!?!?! -- and it was "an achievement that actually meets our desire to experience events, sporting and otherwise, that we can rank among the most important of all time."

If you want to quibble with whether it is one of the top 50 sporting events of the year, fine. Maybe I am guilty of hyperbole (though any of the examples I cited, people would remember those far more than they'll remember this).

To act like this is some event of great cosmic sports significance -- "most important of all time" -- you must be emotionally beholden to either Coach K or the columnist.

And for you to dismiss it, you must be emotionally beholden to, um . . .hating COACH K!!!!!!!

See how dumb that sounds?

"most important of all time"

You just let me know where I used those words.

I disagree with "the columnist's" column. But I also am in disbelief at the complete dismissal of this. Yes, it has been broken three times in the last 14 years; that's what haopopens when a lot of great coaches are contemporaries. But I wonder when it would be broken again, especially considering the fact Cryzewsky has a few years to go before retirement.

 

[steveu]

I really hope this doesn't cut into Sportscenter's 20+ minutes of NBA lockout coverage

Oh, all this **** is priceless! I'm laughing my ass off reading these comments.

To be fair, I suppose it IS Coach K's 903rd win. This coming from a longtime Duke hater all the way back to the 1980s.

 

[poindexter]

As with any of these stupid "records" and "milestones" in the espn era, the game inflation is never mentioned. In Wooden's first championship year, UCLA played 30 games. Coach K's latest championship team played 40.

BFD, these "records" are for the braindead.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I think you need to go back to the column I quoted, where the writer said "we finally experienced authentic greatness" -- as in, like, the first time ever?!?!?! -- and it was "an achievement that actually meets our desire to experience events, sporting and otherwise, that we can rank among the most important of all time."

If you want to quibble with whether it is one of the top 50 sporting events of the year, fine. Maybe I am guilty of hyperbole (though any of the examples I cited, people would remember those far more than they'll remember this).

To act like this is some event of great cosmic sports significance -- "most important of all time" -- you must be emotionally beholden to either Coach K or the columnist.

And for you to dismiss it, you must be emotionally beholden to, um . . .hating COACH K!!!!!!!

See how dumb that sounds?

"most important of all time"

You just let me know where I used those words.

I disagree with "the columnist's" column. But I also am in disbelief at the complete dismissal of this. Yes, it has been broken three times in the last 14 years; that's what haopopens when a lot of great coaches are contemporaries. But I wonder when it would be broken again, especially considering the fact Cryzewsky has a few years to go before retirement.

The columnist used those words. You argued with my take about the columnist. I repeated those words from the columnist. Those are the words he used, and the point I posted about. We are debating something that you don't seem to know exists.

If the record stands forever and ever, it won't even matter. This isn't Pete Rose beating Ty Cobb, you know.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

I think you need to go back to the column I quoted, where the writer said "we finally experienced authentic greatness" -- as in, like, the first time ever?!?!?! -- and it was "an achievement that actually meets our desire to experience events, sporting and otherwise, that we can rank among the most important of all time."

If you want to quibble with whether it is one of the top 50 sporting events of the year, fine. Maybe I am guilty of hyperbole (though any of the examples I cited, people would remember those far more than they'll remember this).

To act like this is some event of great cosmic sports significance -- "most important of all time" -- you must be emotionally beholden to either Coach K or the columnist.

And for you to dismiss it, you must be emotionally beholden to, um . . .hating COACH K!!!!!!!

See how dumb that sounds?

"most important of all time"

You just let me know where I used those words.

I disagree with "the columnist's" column. But I also am in disbelief at the complete dismissal of this. Yes, it has been broken three times in the last 14 years; that's what haopopens when a lot of great coaches are contemporaries. But I wonder when it would be broken again, especially considering the fact Cryzewsky has a few years to go before retirement.

The columnist used those words. You argued with my take about the columnist. I repeated those words from the columnist. Those are the words he used, and the point I posted about. We are debating something that you don't seem to know exists.

If the record stands forever and ever, it won't even matter. This isn't Pete Rose beating Ty Cobb, you know.

This was all I argued with:

I could seriously list 50 moments this year alone that are more memorable than this.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I am starting to think this is your veiled sarcasm, because I can't think of a reason this would have gone on for so long otherwise. But, anyway, probably far enough.

 

[Piotr Rasputin]

I am starting to think this is your veiled sarcasm, because I can't think of a reason this would have gone on for so long otherwise. But, anyway, probably far enough.

No, I genuinely thought that your "50" assertion didn't ring true.

And I do respect Coach K's accomplishment, and think it's newsworthy.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Yes. This was on when I woke up from that boring second half. I thought I had rolled over onto the remote during my sleep. Then OSU came back on to finish the whupping.

 

[HanSenSE]

I don't give a **** about the record. For other channels to leave their games to cover it is asinine, if it was already on ESPN Uno.

Exactly. Put it on the scroll at the bottom of the game and if people want to switch over, they can.

This.

 

[poindexter]

btw, When the UConn women "broke" UCLA's "record" of consecutive victories, ESPN treated it like a major record had been broken. Gender didn't matter.

Since Pat Summitt has 1,071 career victories, why didn't ESPN wait until Coach K got 1,071?

All these phoney-baloney "records" and "milestones" are all a buncha bull****.

 

[dooley_womack1]

So you think we just shouldn't keep any stats or numbers? And I am impressed that you can pan laziness, perversity and achievement with equal aplomb.

 

[poindexter]

So you think we just shouldn't keep any stats or numbers? And I am impressed that you can pan laziness, perversity and achievement with equal aplomb.

If we can keep the Super Bowl to just one channel, how about we do the same for Coach K's phony baloney records?

 

[NickMordo]

btw, When the UConn women "broke" UCLA's "record" of consecutive victories, ESPN treated it like a major record had been broken. Gender didn't matter.

Since Pat Summitt has 1,071 career victories, why didn't ESPN wait until Coach K got 1,071?

All these phoney-baloney "records" and "milestones" are all a buncha bull****.

What's women's basketball?

 

[forever_town]

OSU won by 7 on November 15 ... Coach K became Division I's winningest coach ... Real toss-up there.

He broke the record; we know that.

It's the way ESPN handled it that has people rankled.

I hate Duke with the fire of 1 million suns, but it doesn't really trouble me.

Putting on my journalist's hat for a moment, becoming the winningest coach in Division I history is a big story that merits cutting away from a game for the final seconds at least.

Putting my Maryland fanboi looser's hat on for a moment, I don't care if he becomes the all-time winningest coach of any four-year school in history, surpassing Don Meyer's 923 at any NCAA men's division or Harry Statham's 1,022 wins and counting at the NAIA level, or even if he passes Pat Summitt's 1,072 for any gender at any level, I still hate the fact that his smarmy-looking mug was assaulting my eyes at all.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

This is actually something different and interesting. I don't get how anyone can paint 903 wins as anything other than newsworthy and unique.

No one in this thread has painted it as "anything other than newsworthy and unique." Those posting are lambasting ESPN for breaking into coverage of it on EVERY FREAKING CHANNEL THEY OWN. If they had broken in for the final 20 seconds or whatever, fine. But they had to show the post-game interview and everything between Coach K and Knight.

That's what people are talking about, and not trying to downplay the record ...

 

[HanSenSE]

I don't think ESPN is alone in overhyping this. Fox Sports' Bill Reiter:

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball/story/Mike-Krzyzewski-coaching-milestone-is-one-to-savor-111511

Savor this. Enjoy this. Remember how this felt when it happened. Realize that on Tuesday night, when Michael William Krzyzewski became the winningest basketball coach in NCAA history with his 903rd win, we finally experienced authentic greatness.

This moment did not need to be forced, shined, spun or hyped. Duke’s 74-69 win over Michigan State at Madison Square Garden was the thing America loves to proclaim but rarely sees: an all-time moment, a glimpse of incredible and lasting greatness, an achievement that actually meets our desire to experience events, sporting and otherwise, that we can rank among the most important of all time.

W.T.F.

I could seriously list 50 moments this year alone that are more memorable than this. And I have no idea what "authentic greatness" is, or why Dean Smith didn't achieve authentic greatness, or why this achievement is any authentically greater than Aaron Rodgers winning the Super Bowl MVP or Dirk and the boys stuffing it in LeBron's cakehole or Game 6 of the World Series.

The MSN.com headline of that column says "Coach K's moment one we'll tell our kids about." I'm not even going to tell my kids when they wake up in eight hours.

Seriously was there some laughing gas pumped into the MSG air conditioning or something?

This is part of why I'll miss the NBA this winter. College hoops has become all about the coaches, not the players. Can we get a network just for Vitale and his ilk to go on and on about coaches 24/7, and leave the rest of the networks to the games?

The players are there for no more than four years and, in the case of the best ones, often for much less than that. The coaches are the constants. That's why they get hyped.

True, but the likes of Vitale and Packer (yes, I know he's retired, but the stench lingers on) have turned genuflecting at the altar of College Coach into such an art, I honestly feel it takes away from the game ... which is what I wanted to watch in the first place.

 

[TigerVols]

I was going to put this on the journalism board, but of course that board's about journalism so...I'll just put it on this ESPN thread:

George Bodenheimer is, for all practical purposes, stepping down as head of the WWL in order to spend more time with his family. John Skipper has been named president.

Look for even more foolishness from the networks.

http://www.latimes.com/business/fi-ct-espn-20111123,0,3899704.story?track=rss

 

[Flying Headbutt]

They promoted the man who is shoving soccer down all of our throats.