Stoops vs. Saban getting good

[hondo]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/24634298/bob-stoops-jabs-at-nick-sabans-consolation-game-sugar-bowl-comments

Saban's an ass and Stoops is one coach who finally calls him on it.

Also Art Biles tells Jimbo Fisher to shut up.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11244495/baylor-bears-art-briles-tells-florida-state-seminoles-jimbo-fisher-worry-acc-not-big-12

I'd say not having a Big 12 Conference championship game will be a benefit to the Big 12 champion if that team actually makes the national championship game ... which it hasn't, since the league got smaller and got rid of the game.

With the Spurrier vs. Dabo battle ongoing, these guys are acting a little pissy.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

I don't know if Stoops is as much of a prick as Saban, but he's not too far off.

 

[MileHigh]

The Big 12 didn't get rid of the game on its own; it had to. Need at least 12 teams in the conference to have a conference title game.

Of course, it would be nice if everyone plays nine conference games, but alas ...

 

[BurnsWhenIPee]

And the Big 12 wanted/wants to have a championship game, too.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8900124/big-12-wants-ncaa-allow-conference-title-game

Of course, now they are changing their tune, puffing out their chests and telling outsiders not to worry about them and they are very happy without a conference championship game.

Bowlsby is a cockbag.

 

[Batman]

The Big 12 didn't get rid of the game on its own; it had to. Need at least 12 teams in the conference to have a conference title game.

Of course, it would be nice if everyone plays nine conference games, but alas ...

Nine games makes perfect sense for a 10-team league, but it's not a one size fits all solution.
Personally, I'm hoping if the big boy conferences eventually split off to form their own thing that we get not only a nine-game schedule but a second level of conference playoffs. It makes perfect sense for the 16-team leagues that the ACC, SEC and Big 10 are heading toward.
In a 16-team league split into four four-team divisions, you'd play nine conference games a year -- three against your own division (which could be set up to preserve the best rivalries as well as geographically) and two each against the other two divisions on a rotating two-year home-and-home basis. That way, within each four-year cycle you'd have played everybody in the league home and away and you restore some competitive balance.
The catch, though, is that you need to add a conference playoff round (the league semifinals) in addition to a championship game.

 

[Pilot]

The Big 12 didn't get rid of the game on its own; it had to. Need at least 12 teams in the conference to have a conference title game.

Of course, it would be nice if everyone plays nine conference games, but alas ...

Nine games makes perfect sense for a 10-team league, but it's not a one size fits all solution.
Personally, I'm hoping if the big boy conferences eventually split off to form their own thing that we get not only a nine-game schedule but a second level of conference playoffs. It makes perfect sense for the 16-team leagues that the ACC, SEC and Big 10 are heading toward.
In a 16-team league split into four four-team divisions, you'd play nine conference games a year -- three against your own division (which could be set up to preserve the best rivalries as well as geographically) and two each against the other two divisions on a rotating two-year home-and-home basis. That way, within each four-year cycle you'd have played everybody in the league home and away and you restore some competitive balance.
The catch, though, is that you need to add a conference playoff round (the league semifinals) in addition to a championship game.

Just so long as we maintain big rivalries like Colorado vs. Cal and Nebraska vs. Iowa, I'm all in.

Even now, a few years later, realignment is so stupid it hurts the brain to think about.

 

[Riptide]

Bama, of course, would insist on
seven home games, two road games.

Roll Tide.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

The Big 12 didn't get rid of the game on its own; it had to. Need at least 12 teams in the conference to have a conference title game.

Of course, it would be nice if everyone plays nine conference games, but alas ...

Nine games makes perfect sense for a 10-team league, but it's not a one size fits all solution.
Personally, I'm hoping if the big boy conferences eventually split off to form their own thing that we get not only a nine-game schedule but a second level of conference playoffs. It makes perfect sense for the 16-team leagues that the ACC, SEC and Big 10 are heading toward.
In a 16-team league split into four four-team divisions, you'd play nine conference games a year -- three against your own division (which could be set up to preserve the best rivalries as well as geographically) and two each against the other two divisions on a rotating two-year home-and-home basis. That way, within each four-year cycle you'd have played everybody in the league home and away and you restore some competitive balance.
The catch, though, is that you need to add a conference playoff round (the league semifinals) in addition to a championship game.

Just so long as we maintain big rivalries like Colorado vs. Cal and Nebraska vs. Iowa, I'm all in.

Even now, a few years later, realignment is so stupid it hurts the brain to think about.

What about Nebraska vs. Maryland and Nebraska vs. Rutgers?

 

[mb]

For all the talk about 16-team leagues, I'd love to see 18-team leagues, where you play an 8-game league schedule of only your division opponents. Face the other division in the title game. Pissy about losing some fantastic rivalry? Play it as a non-conference game.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

For all the talk about 16-team leagues, I'd love to see 18-team leagues, where you play an 8-game league schedule of only your division opponents. Face the other division in the title game. Pissy about losing some fantastic rivalry? Play it as a non-conference game.

Yeah, it's time for teams to choose a (one) conference rival. I'm not going to lose any sleep if Alabama and Tennessee no longer play and Florida and LSU don't meet every year. I don't see any of those schools agreeing to a game if it's not part of a conference schedule. Pick one team that you're paired with and that's your conference rival...

I love the idea of four or five 16 or 18-team conferences.

 

[hondo]

I don't know if Stoops is as much of a prick as Saban, but he's not too far off.

So he's a prick for calling out Saban as a prick?

 

[nmmetsfan]

I think he'd established himself as a prick long before he called Saban out.

 

[hondo]

I think he'd established himself as a prick long before he called Saban out.

Yeah, but he'll never be the biggest prick. That is all Nick's.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

I don't know if Stoops is as much of a prick as Saban, but he's not too far off.

So he's a prick for calling out Saban as a prick?

Not at all. Just a pot/kettle type thing.

 

[Neutral Corner]

And the Big 12 wanted/wants to have a championship game, too.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8900124/big-12-wants-ncaa-allow-conference-title-game

Of course, now they are changing their tune, puffing out their chests and telling outsiders not to worry about them and they are very happy without a conference championship game.

Bowlsby is a cockbag.

You seen this? Bowlsby - "Cheating pays presently". http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11243234/bob-bowlsby-big-12-commissioner-says-cheating-pays-ncaa-enforcement-broken?src=mobile&rand=ref~{%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fcsnbbs.com%2Fthread-695760.html%22}

 

[nmmetsfan]

I think he'd established himself as a prick long before he called Saban out.

Yeah, but he'll never be the biggest prick. That is all Nick's.

I'm not getting into a prick measuring contest with you

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

I think he'd established himself as a prick long before he called Saban out.

Yeah, but he'll never be the biggest prick. That is all Nick's.

There are coaches who are much bigger assholes than Saban. Spurrier is a quote machine, but he's more vindictive than Saban ever was, unless there is a list of LSU or Alabama beat writers who Saban tried to get fired.

Hal Mumme is a bigger asshole than Saban.

The list isn't long. But there is a list.

 

[hondo]

I don't know if Stoops is as much of a prick as Saban, but he's not too far off.

So he's a prick for calling out Saban as a prick?

Not at all. Just a pot/kettle type thing.

The thing is, Stoops was right. It was a horse**** thing on Saban's part to marginalize Oklahoma's Sugar Bowl victory by claiming he couldn't get his kids motivated for a "consolation game." Saban's such a wonderful coach, but he can't get his kids ready for a damn Sugar Bowl? I can understand just a little if it was Shreveport.

 

[Batman]

The Big 12 didn't get rid of the game on its own; it had to. Need at least 12 teams in the conference to have a conference title game.

Of course, it would be nice if everyone plays nine conference games, but alas ...

Nine games makes perfect sense for a 10-team league, but it's not a one size fits all solution.
Personally, I'm hoping if the big boy conferences eventually split off to form their own thing that we get not only a nine-game schedule but a second level of conference playoffs. It makes perfect sense for the 16-team leagues that the ACC, SEC and Big 10 are heading toward.
In a 16-team league split into four four-team divisions, you'd play nine conference games a year -- three against your own division (which could be set up to preserve the best rivalries as well as geographically) and two each against the other two divisions on a rotating two-year home-and-home basis. That way, within each four-year cycle you'd have played everybody in the league home and away and you restore some competitive balance.
The catch, though, is that you need to add a conference playoff round (the league semifinals) in addition to a championship game.

Just so long as we maintain big rivalries like Colorado vs. Cal and Nebraska vs. Iowa, I'm all in.

Even now, a few years later, realignment is so stupid it hurts the brain to think about.

There's just as many lame "rivalries" that existed in the old conference setups.
How intense, really, was Nebraska-Iowa State? Or Maryland-Georgia Tech? Or West Virginia-Rutgers? Or Florida-Kentucky?
Conference rivalries stem not just from geography and history, but from competitive games and playing for stakes. Sometimes they can go from nothing to something in a very short time.
Colorado-Nebraska in the 1990s is a good example. LSU and Auburn played a lot over the years, but a string of memorable, meaningful games from the mid-90s on has made that one of the best SEC rivalries of the last 20 years.
Bottom line, if Colorado and Cal have some good matchups -- and play frequently enough, which is another key -- they'll get something going. They don't even necessarily have to both be good.

 

[Big Circus]

Agree completely, Batman. To pick an example dear to my heart, UVA and Miami, against all odds, have a pretty good, competitive series going. They play every year, and the game has gone down to the wire as often as not. The games are almost always entertaining and compelling. And that's with the teams ranging from "generally down a notch from their historical reputation" (Miami) to "dumpster fire" (UVA).