Steroids dealer to name names, according to cnnsi.com

[jboy]

Usual disclaimer: If this is a DB, sorry.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/08/21/radomski.mitchell2/index.html

From the story:

Kirk Radomski, the former Mets clubhouse attendant who admitted selling steroids to scores of major leaguers, recently has provided names of users in a meeting with baseball's lead steroid investigator, George Mitchell, SI.com has learned.

Radomski, awaiting federal sentencing after pleading guilty to distributing steroids to "dozens of major leaguers,'' quietly met with Mitchell and provided names of former steroid clients, sources said. Radomski's plea and agreement to cooperate has been seen by some MLB people as baseball investigators' big break in the case, and indications are that he was the star witness they hoped for.

One person familiar with some of Mitchell's findings said people are going to be "very surprised'' by how much Mitchell has learned about baseball's steroid past...

 

[spnited]

This story moved on the AP wire early last night

 

[Jack_Kerouac]

This is such a d_b that a "jboy" could soon earn its place in the SportsJournalists.com lexicon, too.

 

[The Big Ragu]

Well, it's not surprising that he talked. It was part of the plea agreement months ago -- that he would help out George Mitchell. The BALCO idiots get all the media attention because of Barry Bonds, but this was the guy that Jeff Novitzky, who made the BALCO case, quietly made a case against, too. For all the unsubstantiated allegations he has taken on this board from creamora and others, Novitzky sure has managed to get a lot of felony convictions of various drug dealers.

 

[jboy]

This is such a d_b that a "jboy" could soon earn its place in the SportsJournalists.com lexicon, too.

Read my disclaimer!

I still don't see a previous thread in either forum. Unless it's titled something ambiguous like, "Hey, look at this" or "This is really something!".

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Ragu --
Jeff Novitzsky is a bit of an obsessive.

 

[jimmymcd]

You would be praising that obsessiveness if it was directed at your "favorite" pols, FB

 

[I love puppies!]

This story moved on the AP wire early last night

Apparently jboy doesn't read the AP wire before he goes to bed. Loser.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

You would be praising that obsessiveness if it was directed at your "favorite" pols, FB

When that happens, give me a call.

 

[Oz]

This story moved on the AP wire early last night

Apparently jboy doesn't read the AP wire before he goes to bed. Loser.

Maybe he didn't work last night. I know this story was news to me. Of course, I didn't work last night.

 

[steveu]

Well, I'd just as soon this be out in the open.

On the other hand, I better be careful what I wish for here. I don't want to be the only one in the stands on Opening Day.

 

[The Big Ragu]

Ragu --
Jeff Novitzsky is a bit of an obsessive.

A huge obsessive, I think... Still has gotten what, four or five felony convictions from the two investigations? I'd guess if you are dealing steroids, you don't want to become one of his obsessions.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Ragu --
Jeff Novitzsky is a bit of an obsessive.

A huge obsessive, I think... Still has gotten what, four or five felony convictions from the two investigations? I'd guess if you are dealing steroids, you don't want to become one of his obsessions.

Yeah, or you just don't want to be somebody he thinks is dealing steroids or he'll ruin your life.
Be careful what you wish for, Ragu. That's how Mike Nifongs happen.

 

[jgmacg]

Inspector Javert has his eye on both of you.

"The face of Javert petrified them."

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Zut alors!
I thought it was flaxseed oil!

 

[The Big Ragu]

Ragu --
Jeff Novitzsky is a bit of an obsessive.

A huge obsessive, I think... Still has gotten what, four or five felony convictions from the two investigations? I'd guess if you are dealing steroids, you don't want to become one of his obsessions.

Yeah, or you just don't want to be somebody he thinks is dealing steroids or he'll ruin your life.
Be careful what you wish for, Ragu. That's how Mike Nifongs happen.

Mike Nifong didn't get any felony convictions in the Duke cases--because there was no evidence of anything. And he ended up screwing his own career by acting maliciously. This hasn't been the case with any of Novtzksy's investigations. I'm not seeing the Mike Nifong parallel, unless the assumption is that every cop, investigator and prosecutor is lying and faking evidence. I assume you are not suggesting that Mike Nifong is the rule, not an exception. I don't see how you make the leap to automatically assuming wrongdoing in places where there is no evidence of any. It's kind of like looking at a school teacher who molests a child and then assuming that most or all school teachers are child molesters.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I have an ingrained suspicion of any cop or prosecutor who tries his case in the press, or leaks as much as I believe Nowitzky has. I believe that is contrary to the oath they both take, and I believe that encouraging them to believe that those activities are part of good law enforcement is the way Nifongs happen. I'm willing to bet that Nifong won some cases before the Duke case happened, and that his MO didn't differ then from the one he employed against the lacrosse players. If he hadn't tried it against defendants who were a) innocent, b) media-savvy, and c) capable of affording genuine lawyers, it might've worked this time, too.

 

[Ralph Waldo Henderson]

I have an ingrained suspicion of any cop or prosecutor who tries his case in the press, or leaks as much as I believe Nowitzky has. I believe that is contrary to the oath they both take, and I believe that encouraging them to believe that those activities are part of good law enforcement is the way Nifongs happen. I'm willing to bet that Nifong won some cases before the Duke case happened, and that his MO didn't differ then from the one he employed against the lacrosse players. If he hadn't tried it against defendants who were a) innocent, b) media-savvy, and c) capable of affording genuine lawyers, it might've worked this time, too.

Those are fair points. At least you're only suspiciuos of Novitzky, not throwing around unfounded allegations like other people. But Fenian, in this case you do seem to have a lot of sympathy for multi-millionaire athletes who can hire high-priced lawyers, never mind their powerful union. Against Novitzky, I say this is an even fight.

 

[BYH]

And in related news, the Mets, figuring they needed more guys with steroidal pasts connected to the organization, acquired Luis Matos from the Pirates.

Imagine the ****storm if the Yankees had HALF as many kids busted for steroids as the Mets. It pays for the bumbling PR guy to be nice to the writers and it pays for the owner to fashion himself as a kindly grandfatherian alternative to George, even though the truth is something else entirely.

I'm already popping popcorn in anticipation of the Radomski fallout. that's going to have a lot of intolerable people scrambling.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I have an ingrained suspicion of any cop or prosecutor who tries his case in the press, or leaks as much as I believe Nowitzky has. I believe that is contrary to the oath they both take, and I believe that encouraging them to believe that those activities are part of good law enforcement is the way Nifongs happen. I'm willing to bet that Nifong won some cases before the Duke case happened, and that his MO didn't differ then from the one he employed against the lacrosse players. If he hadn't tried it against defendants who were a) innocent, b) media-savvy, and c) capable of affording genuine lawyers, it might've worked this time, too.

Those are fair points. At least you're only suspiciuos of Novitzky, not throwing around unfounded allegations like other people. But Fenian, in this case you do seem to have a lot of sympathy for multi-millionaire athletes who can hire high-priced lawyers, never mind their powerful union. Against Novitzky, I say this is an even fight.

I don't know how you manage to deduce that - and I would pointout that poor widdle Jeff Nowitzky happens to have a rather large institution called THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT behind what he does. It's not a question of sympathy. It's more my distrust -- dating back to the beginnings of the most recent "drug war" in the 1980's and continuing through the years of Clinton, who was the worst president for the Bill of Rights in my lifetime until the current fool -- of the prosecutor-friendly laws and prosecutor-friendly media coverage thereof. Amendments Four through Six have taken a rather bad beatdown in those years, and they're the things for which I have the most sympathy.