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Dick Whitman

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680 matches under suspicion, including some World Cup qualifiers and Champions League matches.

I don't really know the intricacies of the sport's structure, but am I wrong that this is huge? As in a lot bigger than the news cycle is treating it at this point?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/match-fixing-probe-found-380-103613303--sow.html
 
It was pretty large yesterday and I think it's a big deal worldwide. But none of it happened in America.

I wasn't surprised about the African and Asian games and some of the World Cup qualifiers, because a lot of those guys don't earn much money. Can't for the life of me figure out what player would want/need to fix a Champions League match.

Soccer is one ****ed-up sport, though.
 
**** Whitman said:
680 matches under suspicion, including some World Cup qualifiers and Champions League matches.

I don't really know the intricacies of the sport's structure, but am I wrong that this is huge? As in a lot bigger than the news cycle is treating it at this point?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/match-fixing-probe-found-380-103613303--sow.html

Gotta know the matches before judging it.

If there is significant chicanery in European nations not named Italy, then this will be huge.

It won't be a blip here.
 
Norrin Radd said:
**** Whitman said:
680 matches under suspicion, including some World Cup qualifiers and Champions League matches.

I don't really know the intricacies of the sport's structure, but am I wrong that this is huge? As in a lot bigger than the news cycle is treating it at this point?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/match-fixing-probe-found-380-103613303--sow.html

Gotta know the matches before judging it.

If there is significant chicanery in European nations not named Italy, then this will be huge.

It won't be a blip here.
Yep. Could be huge in Europe.
 
One of the strangest things when I first started following association football/soccer overseas was seeing sites like Bet365.com sponsored on players' kits.

It's a huge deal. Reportedly two Champions Leagues matches involved. Also, World Cup qualifiers, even more significant in my eyes. Again, not going to blow up here, but it will permeate some of the shows like Behind the Lines potentially and whatnot when more details emerge, even though it will likely deserve the kind of attention that Armstrong got. With that and all the racism issues still bubbling, all a black eye.
 
Don't you mean "Outside The Lines"? "Behind The Lines" is an excellent opening album track by Genesis.

Carry on.
 
Sam Mills 51 said:
Don't you mean "Outside The Lines"? "Behind The Lines" is an excellent opening album track by Genesis.

Carry on.

Under the Tunes.
 
MLS will be affected, if it already hasn't. The Asian gambling cartels have influence everywhere.

And this is not about outcomes. It's about victory margins and the long odds that go with them.

Read the book by Declan Hill on the matter.
 
Says the probe uncovered $2.7 million in bribes to players and officials, and then quotes an investigator as saying that's just "the tip of the iceberg." So, yeah, sounds to me like this could be mighty huge.
 
I've not seen the complete list of suspicious matches, but I'd guess most involve group stage matches or Asian league matches. I can't imagine they'd be able to bribe, say, QPR players to lay down to Fulham or get Howard Webb to give more Fergie time to United.

The prevailing attitude in soccer world reminds me of that in cycling world when PEDs became a story there. It's "yeah, we know some matches are fixed, but it's no big deal."
 
NoOneLikesUs said:
MLS will be affected, if it already hasn't. The Asian gambling cartels have influence everywhere.

And this is not about outcomes. It's about victory margins and the long odds that go with them.

Read the book by Declan Hill on the matter.

Someone bets on MLS games?

That is a real cry for help.
 
Yet people were shocked that Qatar and Russia may have "fixed" their World Cup-winning bids...
 
joe king said:
NoOneLikesUs said:
MLS will be affected, if it already hasn't. The Asian gambling cartels have influence everywhere.

And this is not about outcomes. It's about victory margins and the long odds that go with them.

Read the book by Declan Hill on the matter.

Someone bets on MLS games?

That is a real cry for help.

It's amazing what people bet on. A couple years ago, there was a scandal in cricket after several players for Pakistan were found to have conspired to rig spot bets on no-balls. Essentially, it would be the equivalent of betting on something like a pitcher going to a 2-0 count on the seventh batter in a game. Something utterly pedestrian and extremely easy to fix.

The Champions League game in England found to have been rigged was Liverpool-Debrecen, a group stage game. Debrecen were from Romania, I think, and would have been heavy underdogs, so any attempted fix would have likely surrounded the final score, or a particular event within the game. The report I've seen is that they suspended a player for failing to report having been approached by a fixer. That may be the extent of it.

There's nothing quite so jarring when you're accustomed to the American approach to gambling as the ads you see at halftime of games here, which generate live odds on the game you're watching, generally something like "Rooney to score next" or "Man United to win 4-1" when they're up 2-0. You also get betting windows inside stadiums.
 
deskslave said:
joe king said:
NoOneLikesUs said:
MLS will be affected, if it already hasn't. The Asian gambling cartels have influence everywhere.

And this is not about outcomes. It's about victory margins and the long odds that go with them.

Read the book by Declan Hill on the matter.

Someone bets on MLS games?

That is a real cry for help.

It's amazing what people bet on. A couple years ago, there was a scandal in cricket after several players for Pakistan were found to have conspired to rig spot bets on no-balls. Essentially, it would be the equivalent of betting on something like a pitcher going to a 2-0 count on the seventh batter in a game. Something utterly pedestrian and extremely easy to fix.

The Champions League game in England found to have been rigged was Liverpool-Debrecen, a group stage game. Debrecen were from Romania, I think, and would have been heavy underdogs, so any attempted fix would have likely surrounded the final score, or a particular event within the game. The report I've seen is that they suspended a player for failing to report having been approached by a fixer. That may be the extent of it.

There's nothing quite so jarring when you're accustomed to the American approach to gambling as the ads you see at halftime of games here, which generate live odds on the game you're watching, generally something like "Rooney to score next" or "Man United to win 4-1" when they're up 2-0. You also get betting windows inside stadiums.

I was just taking a shot at MLS.

Believe me, I realized how pervasive gambling is when I first saw that the Nevada books were setting lines on NFL preseason games. Now that's ill.
 
joe king said:
NoOneLikesUs said:
MLS will be affected, if it already hasn't. The Asian gambling cartels have influence everywhere.

And this is not about outcomes. It's about victory margins and the long odds that go with them.

Read the book by Declan Hill on the matter.

Someone bets on MLS games?

In Asia any league in the world is up for wager.
 
NoOneLikesUs said:
joe king said:
NoOneLikesUs said:
MLS will be affected, if it already hasn't. The Asian gambling cartels have influence everywhere.

And this is not about outcomes. It's about victory margins and the long odds that go with them.

Read the book by Declan Hill on the matter.

Someone bets on MLS games?

In Asia any league in the world is up for wager.

I'd take the over when my U50 team plays the guys sponsored by the local supermercado chain.
 

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