San Antonio Night Editor slams a pop-knot on TV guys

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Good for Pils. More of these should be written when appropriate.



www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories/MYSA070807.02C.COLpils.page2.367bcd1.html



The Associated Press gave us credit. Heck, even ESPN.com, the self-proclaimed worldwide leader in what we do, gave us credit.

But not KSAT.

So, without further ado ... a missive from the sports editor's office:

"We have breaking news!" KSAT's Larry Ramirez shouted, almost elevating to his tippy-toes in his own excitement. "Apparently, the Seattle SuperSonics have hired P.J. Carlesimo as their next head coach!! And I'm sure we'll have much more on this at 10 p.m."

What Laughable Larry didn't tell people who were watching his telecast on July 3 was that the "breaking news" he worked so hard to get was taken directly off the San Antonio Express-News Web site. And he delivered on his promise. He did have much more at 10 p.m., after the Express-News posted many more details online.

This, unfortunately, has become standard practice at KSAT, where Ramirez, Greg Simmons and David Sears are more comfortable deceiving their viewers than they are practicing real journalism. Real journalism would entail developing sources and contacts, doing a little work on your own. Apparently that's too complicated for this trio.

The Carlesimo "exclusive" is just the latest in a long list of stories that KSAT's sports guys have stolen from the Express-News. They dance around the ethical issues surrounding this practice by using terms like "KSAT 12 has learned" and "KSAT 12 has confirmed."

The Radio/Television News Directors Association's Code of Ethics practically begs electronic journalists to "... clearly disclose the origin of information and label all material provided by outsiders." And the Society of Professional Journalists' code is even more direct: "Never plagiarize," it says.

We can be thankful that other local sports personalities — Don Harris and David Chancellor at WOAI and Joe Reinagel and Bob Ballou at KENS — give proper credit when credit is due. They correctly source the Express-News or other media outlets when necessary.

But Larry, Greggy and Davey have set a whole new standard for laziness, thievery and ineptness. And until the three stooges at KSAT man up and admit they are incapable of doing their own reporting, we'll recognize them as journalism miscreants, a species that some day, hopefully, will become extinct.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

What did the five fingers say to the face? SLAP!

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Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

As Molly Ivins (RIP) would say: "Good on him."
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

Good for him. I have a feeling that too many TV stations get away with that.
 
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"Is Douglas Pils gonna have to choke a b****?"
 
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Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys


i freaking love it
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

I'm putting that guy on my Christmas card list.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

That happens way, way too much. Just happened to me the other day, in fact. The sad thing is that many of these TV foofs have no ****ing clue what they're doing is beyond wrong.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

It's ridiculous how much it happens and how much the TV sports people get away with. I know at a paper in the Midwest I used to work for, we broke stories all the time and put them onine. Next thing you know, the TV guys have "breaking news" and say "(TV station) has learned" or "according to (TV station) sources, we have learned. They learned to read the stories online. They don't care about giving credit to anyone and they don't do any work. It's bull****. But it's not going to stop, especially the more the newspapers go on the web.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

The TV folk are absolutely in the wrong on this one, and few if anyone outside their newsroom would defend them. That said, is this the best tact to respond? I understand the man's frustration, but it read like a transcript from a J.T. The Brick rant.

I smell a sissy slapfight a'brewin'.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

You think TV folks have a problem with this? Try the sports radio yakkers.

And I happen to think there are plenty of good TV journalists -- Hi, Luggy -- but the one bad apple ...
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

This has been an increasingly frustrating topic for me...I switched to news in September and frequently scoop the radio station...

The problem is, of course, that the radio news guy reads my stories during his second news shift of the morning, never giving the proper source...

The jerk even had the gall to 'compliment' me on how good a job I was doing a few months after I started in news

"You do a great job, and I can trust what you do enough to know that I can read anything I missed on air and know you got it right..."

****er.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

I used to get this in news a lot...one of my co-workers once called the local ABC affiliate and said, "You know, if you're going to steal my story, at least get it right!"
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

We've lived this, too.

I am so glad that story was written.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

Two points...

1. Newspapers have to do this every single time in happens. The editors need to be as vigilant about this as some person is vigilant about picking apart a Michael Moore movie. TV stations only do it because newspaper editors don't jump down their throat nearly enough.

2. If the Express-News has any reporters appearing on radio or TV shows anywhere, anytime or for any reason, then, well, this is a nice diatribe, but sorta beside the point. You have to get your reporters off other media outlets. Period.
 
Re: San Antonio SE slams a pop-knot on TV guys

I thought the SE was out of line. We're all journalists and in this together.




Ah, just kidding. Good for him. Need more slap-downs like that.
 
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Alma said:
2. If the Express-News has any reporters appearing on radio or TV shows anywhere, anytime or for any reason, then, well, this is a nice diatribe, but sorta beside the point. You have to get your reporters off other media outlets. Period.

I would agree, but I'm afraid the ship has long since sailed on that.
 

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