RIP, Barbara Bush

[Sea Bass]

https://www.theonion.com/barbara-bush-passes-away-surrounded-by-loved-ones-jeb-1825355144

First comment on that story is ****ing great.

 

[lakefront]

 

[Pete]

That's a helluva story.

Thanks for sharing that. Great story.

I also loved the title (subhead, actually) of the blog, which is by an off-the-boat Irish guy who runs an Irish bar in NYC and is evidently a big baseball fan: "The craic of the bat."

For those who don't know, "craic" is Gaelic for fun, good times, etc. And it is indeed pronounced "crack."

Perfect.

 

[X-Hack]

So I'm going to offer a slightly different take here. Barbara Bush was fine. She seemed like she was basically a decent lady whose privileged background helped her become an effective partner to a very distinguished and high-profile businessman/appointed official/high-level politician and certainly looked and played the part of America's grandmother to the extent anyone needed her to. But it feels like the hagiographies I'm seeing are a little over the top. By many accounts, she could be quite nasty to those who weren't her social "equals." There were her ugly comments about Geraldine Ferraro, for example. Then there were the grossly obtuse comments about things "working out well" for the "underprivileged" Katrina refugees in the Astrodome. Of course she seemed basically to have a good set of values and she seemed pretty real in certain ways. So I guess what I'm saying is she deserves the same tributes any other well-known personality gets when he/she passes on, but the pile-ons and hatred directed at people who are saying, "Hey, wait a minute, let's not get carried away here..." are a little much.

I think a big part of this is that the Republican party has gone so far off the deep end in so many ways, and our politics have sunk so low, that turning George and Barbara Bush, who were perfectly fine, into George and Martha Washington, is an easy way for those on the left to try and flash their bipartisan cred without actually really needing to be bipartisan in any meaningful way. Kind of like supporting Jon Huntsman or John Kasich in the GOP primary while knowing you'd never actually vote for either of them in a general election. Or lambasting Trump for saying stuff about John McCain, who you did not support for president at the time.

 

[Chef2]

Meanwhile, umm, Roger Stone ...

Roger Stone Disses Barbara Bush as a ‘Nasty Drunk’ on News of Her Death

All the best people. :cool:

But wait........there's more.

Roger Stone steps up attacks on Barbara Bush: 'She is descending into hell right now'

What a scumbag.

 

[X-Hack]

I wasn't excusing Roger Stone in my above post, by the way. Referring more to FB pile-ons I've seen on anyone who hasn't exalted Barbara Bush as a saint.

 

[albert777]

Here's the deal. I'm sure Barbara Bush could a ***** when she wanted to be. I've met very few Southern women from her generation who didn't bare their claws when the need arose, and I include my own dear mother in that regard. And I'm sure she enjoyed her share of liquor from time-to-time. She was human; we aren't all completely pure in every way. But, according to almost every account, she was a lady in every sense of the word and deserves to be remembered as such. One of the most rock-solid adages in the lexicon are to never speak ill of the dead, at least not until a respectable amount of time has passed.

 

[Big Circus]

So I'm going to offer a slightly different take here. Barbara Bush was fine. She seemed like she was basically a decent lady whose privileged background helped her become an effective partner to a very distinguished and high-profile businessman/appointed official/high-level politician and certainly looked and played the part of America's grandmother to the extent anyone needed her to. But it feels like the hagiographies I'm seeing are a little over the top. By many accounts, she could be quite nasty to those who weren't her social "equals." There were her ugly comments about Geraldine Ferraro, for example. Then there were the grossly obtuse comments about things "working out well" for the "underprivileged" Katrina refugees in the Astrodome. Of course she seemed basically to have a good set of values and she seemed pretty real in certain ways. So I guess what I'm saying is she deserves the same tributes any other well-known personality gets when he/she passes on, but the pile-ons and hatred directed at people who are saying, "Hey, wait a minute, let's not get carried away here..." are a little much.

I think a big part of this is that the Republican party has gone so far off the deep end in so many ways, and our politics have sunk so low, that turning George and Barbara Bush, who were perfectly fine, into George and Martha Washington, is an easy way for those on the left to try and flash their bipartisan cred without actually really needing to be bipartisan in any meaningful way. Kind of like supporting Jon Huntsman or John Kasich in the GOP primary while knowing you'd never actually vote for either of them in a general election. Or lambasting Trump for saying stuff about John McCain, who you did not support for president at the time.

She also has something in common with way too many of the Greatest Generation: She raised a bunch of spoiled, entitled, greedy kids. I'm sure she was a nice lady, but that's the primary part of her legacy.

 

[YankeeFan]

She raised a bunch of spoiled, entitled, greedy kids.

Link?

 

[QYFW]

She also has something in common with way too many of the Greatest Generation: She raised a bunch of spoiled, entitled, greedy kids. I'm sure she was a nice lady, but that's the primary part of her legacy.

Dude.

 

[Big Circus]

Obits describe her as the "matriarch of a dynasty." It's fair game to point out that the most prominent of the second generation of that dynasty are the architect of the Iraq disaster - a man who, at many times, did not appear to take his office seriously - and a failed presidential candidate who thought he could waltz to the nomination before being eviscerated by Donald Trump. (Not the only one, to be sure.)

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

Obits describe her as the "matriarch of a dynasty." It's fair game to point out that the most prominent of the second generation of that dynasty are the architect of the Iraq disaster - a man who, at many times, did not appear to take his office seriously - and a failed presidential candidate who thought he could waltz to the nomination before being eviscerated by Donald Trump. (Not the only one, to be sure.)

Now watch this drive.

 

[YankeeFan]

It's fair game to point out that the most prominent of the second generation of that dynasty are the architect of the Iraq disaster - a man who, at many times, did not appear to take his office seriously...

Link?

 

[YankeeFan]

Gotta give the Times credit though. They worked Chappaquiddick into Rose Kennedy's obit.

Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, the mother of President John F. Kennedy and of two United States Senators, the wife of a fabulously wealthy businessman-ambassador and the matriarch of a family whose political triumphs and personal tragedies she carried with quiet dignity for 80 years, died yesterday at the Kennedy family compound in Hyannis Port, Mass. She was 104.

Rose Kennedy, Political Matriarch, Dies at 104

 

[X-Hack]

Here's the deal. I'm sure Barbara Bush could a ***** when she wanted to be. I've met very few Southern women from her generation who didn't bare their claws when the need arose, and I include my own dear mother in that regard. And I'm sure she enjoyed her share of liquor from time-to-time. She was human; we aren't all completely pure in every way. But, according to almost every account, she was a lady in every sense of the word and deserves to be remembered as such. One of the most rock-solid adages in the lexicon are to never speak ill of the dead, at least not until a respectable amount of time has passed.

She wasn't Southern -- like HW, she was Northeast WASP to the core. Lived in Texas as an adult. But otherwise that's a pretty fair assessment. Describes my Southern stepgrandmother too -- though she didn't drink.

 

[QYFW]

Here's the deal. I'm sure Barbara Bush could a ***** when she wanted to be. I've met very few Southern women from her generation who didn't bare their claws when the need arose, and I include my own dear mother in that regard. And I'm sure she enjoyed her share of liquor from time-to-time. She was human; we aren't all completely pure in every way. But, according to almost every account, she was a lady in every sense of the word and deserves to be remembered as such. One of the most rock-solid adages in the lexicon are to never speak ill of the dead, at least not until a respectable amount of time has passed.

Women who have raised large families -- especially with multiple sons -- are women you do not want to cross. Wonderful and loving, but not to be ****ed with.

 

[SpeedTchr]

 

[Liut]

Whew, when I last checked this thread yesterday, I figured it would have been locked by now.

 

[Buck]

She also has something in common with way too many of the Greatest Generation: She raised a bunch of spoiled, entitled, greedy kids. I'm sure she was a nice lady, but that's the primary part of her legacy.

Techanically, 1925, she's part of the Silent Generation, not the Greatest Generation.
I didn't like her son as president, but I think of him as a bad president. I have no idea if he was a spoiled, entitled or greedy kid. I know he was a bad president, and I don't blame her for that.

 

[CD Boogie]

But wait........there's more.

Roger Stone steps up attacks on Barbara Bush: 'She is descending into hell right now'

What a scumbag.

I don't generally wish harm on people, but if I were to learn that Roger Stone was, say, a Jets fan, I'd be rather pleased.