Prosecutors being hunted down in Texas

[BenPoquette]

Not saying it was or was not the AB, but the cartel would be much more likely.

Why?

Kaufman County is quite a distance from the border.

It is quite a bit closer to the border than it is to where the Colorado killing the AP is trying to link this to occurred.

The AP is reporting the ABs are the prime suspects because that's what the LEOs are telling them.

In December, Texas DPS issued an alert that the ABs were planning revenge against the agencies that helped get the indictments against 34 of their brothers. The Kaufman County DA's office was one of those agencies.

They did not say they were "prime suspects." They said they are looking for a possible link. Let me know when they find one. Meanwhile, how much ink has the AP spent discussing the cartel possibility?

 

[Azrael]

Not saying it was or was not the AB, but the cartel would be much more likely.

Why?

Kaufman County is quite a distance from the border.

It is quite a bit closer to the border than it is to where the Colorado killing the AP is trying to link this to occurred.

articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/22/nation/la-na-colorado-suspect-20130323

www.daily-times.com/ci_22846624/texas-shootout-may-tie-colorado-prison-chief-death

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Not saying it was or was not the AB, but the cartel would be much more likely.

Why?

Kaufman County is quite a distance from the border.

It is quite a bit closer to the border than it is to where the Colorado killing the AP is trying to link this to occurred.

The AP is reporting the ABs are the prime suspects because that's what the LEOs are telling them.

In December, Texas DPS issued an alert that the ABs were planning revenge against the agencies that helped get the indictments against 34 of their brothers. The Kaufman County DA's office was one of those agencies.

They did not say they were "prime suspects." They said they are looking for a possible link. Let me know when they find one. Meanwhile, how much ink has the AP spent discussing the cartel possibility?

If the LEOs are all saying the ABs are the top suspects and not mentioning the cartels, what would you have the AP do?

"While various law enforcement sources say Aryan Brotherhood of Texas members are the prime suspects in the murders, the Associated Press just wants to throw out there that maybe, just maybe, it's the Mexican drug cartels. Hey, you never know, right?"

 

[Starman]

Well, one good thing is, considering it's Texas, if the actual killers are convicted, the chances are excellent they'll get the DP.

 

[Riptide]

DA was a gun owner and even boasted that "I'm ahead of everybody else ..."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57577167/official-kaufman-county-district-attorney-mike-mclelland-and-his-wife-cynthia-were-targeted-in-killing/

Um, guess not.

"I'm ahead of everybody else because, basically, I'm a soldier," the 23-year Army veteran boasted in an interview less than two weeks ago.

McLelland also went about 300 pounds. Hard for even a soldier to move fast at that weight, and in his 60s, too. Last night's story said it looked as if a door had been kicked in, so the shooter(s) apparently came in hard and fast.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Well, one good thing is, considering it's Texas, if the actual killers are convicted, the chances are excellent they'll get the DP.

Actually - whether they're Mexican cartel thugs or Neo-Nazi skinheads - there's an excellent chance they won't live long enough to be arrested.

 

[Tom Petty]

Well, one good thing is, considering it's Texas, if the actual killers are convicted, the chances are excellent they'll get the DP.

Actually - whether they're Mexican cartel thugs or Neo-Nazi skinheads - there's an excellent chance they won't live long enough to be arrested.

and why's that?

 

[Armchair_QB]

Because they won't be taken alive.

 

[Tom Petty]

Because they won't be taken alive.

meh, skinheads are overrated.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I know Ben desperately wants it to be true, but I'd be pretty surprised if Mexican drug dealers were behind this. There was a story in Texas Monthly (or maybe it was the Atlantic, I don't know, those are my two airport go-to magazines) a couple years ago about how well they self-police on this side of the border just to avoid trouble. Story was set in El Paso with the theme of how much safer it is there than across the border in Juarez. Really they just want to keep doing their thing and making money, and they aren't going to go pick a fight that's going to prevent that.

Ben's coming from the same place as the Arizona governor who talked about the as-yet-unconfirmed beheadings in the desert.

 

[Football_Bat]

Well, the eyewitness account of the Hasse shooting ID'd two white men. So there's that.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Well, the eyewitness account of the Hasse shooting ID'd two white men. So there's that.

And given what we know of eyewitness reports at recent tragedies that means we should probably be looking for one Filipino female in a wheelchair.

 

[Tom Petty]

I know Ben desperately wants it to be true, but I'd be pretty surprised if Mexican drug dealers were behind this. There was a story in Texas Monthly (or maybe it was the Atlantic, I don't know, those are my two airport go-to magazines) a couple years ago about how well they self-police on this side of the border just to avoid trouble. Story was set in El Paso with the theme of how much safer it is there than across the border in Juarez. Really they just want to keep doing their thing and making money, and they aren't going to go pick a fight that's going to prevent that.

Ben's coming from the same place as the Arizona governor who talked about the as-yet-unconfirmed beheadings in the desert.

maybe ben has sources on the street.

 

[User 11148]

I know Ben desperately wants it to be true, but I'd be pretty surprised if Mexican drug dealers were behind this. There was a story in Texas Monthly (or maybe it was the Atlantic, I don't know, those are my two airport go-to magazines) a couple years ago about how well they self-police on this side of the border just to avoid trouble. Story was set in El Paso with the theme of how much safer it is there than across the border in Juarez. Really they just want to keep doing their thing and making money, and they aren't going to go pick a fight that's going to prevent that.

Ben's coming from the same place as the Arizona governor who talked about the as-yet-unconfirmed beheadings in the desert.

maybe ben has sources on the street.

Just a little background ... Kaufman may be rural, but it's not that far from the bright lights of Dallas. It's about 15 to 20 miles from the suburban outskirts of Big D. So this is a helluva long way -- like maybe 6+ hours of haulin'-ass driving (in the left lane) -- from Mexico.

 

[Armchair_QB]

I know Ben desperately wants it to be true, but I'd be pretty surprised if Mexican drug dealers were behind this. There was a story in Texas Monthly (or maybe it was the Atlantic, I don't know, those are my two airport go-to magazines) a couple years ago about how well they self-police on this side of the border just to avoid trouble. Story was set in El Paso with the theme of how much safer it is there than across the border in Juarez. Really they just want to keep doing their thing and making money, and they aren't going to go pick a fight that's going to prevent that.

Ben's coming from the same place as the Arizona governor who talked about the as-yet-unconfirmed beheadings in the desert.

maybe ben has sources on the street.

Just a little background ... Kaufman may be rural, but it's not that far from the bright lights of Dallas. It's about 15 to 20 miles from the suburban outskirts of Big D. So this is a helluva long way -- like maybe 6+ hours of haulin'-ass driving (in the left lane) -- from Mexico.

Interstate 20 also runs through the county. While drug lords probably aren't the culprits here it certainly wouldn't be a surprise if the DA had prosecuted people who were stopped transporting large quantities of drugs thru the county.

 

[Starman]

Because they won't be taken alive.

That, and-or the deep thinkers who conceived and ordered the hits will look on the actual triggermen as loose ends/ loose cannons/ possible stoolies, and will want them scrubbed as well.

If you've already ordered the murder of a prosecuting attorney, you're in deep enough **** already that having some skinhead hitmen or drug mules rubbed out won't make it any worse.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Because they won't be taken alive.

That, and-or the deep thinkers who conceived and ordered the hits will look on the actual triggermen as loose ends/ loose cannons/ possible stoolies, and will want them scrubbed as well.

If you've already ordered the murder of prosecuting attorney, you're in deep enough **** already that having some skinhead hitmen rubbed out won't make it any worse.

Hadn't thought of that angle but that's a great point too.

 

[Azrael]

Timeline of events:

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/31/us/0331-timeline-of-prosecutor-killings.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Timeline of events:

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/31/us/0331-timeline-of-prosecutor-killings.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Ben wonders why the NYT didn't include any cartels in that infograph.

 

[BenPoquette]

Timeline of events:

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/03/31/us/0331-timeline-of-prosecutor-killings.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

Ben wonders why the NYT didn't include any cartels in that infograph.

Ben wonders why you are so insistent on it NOT being a cartel thing and why you are hoping it was some kind of "skinhead" thing. Also, Ben will wait to see what actually happened instead of partaking in all the speculation. Ben will also watch as people use this politically...and not be surprised at all.