Opinions Sought: John Kincaid of ESPN Radio (and ATL radio )

[RokSki]

Yeah, I'd rate them both 1 on a scale of 1-10 in that respect.

Point of reference: I'd rate JT The Brick 0 on that same scale.

It depends on the night. Some nights, JT is cool about it. Other nights, you're gone in a second. At least he has different 'modes,' unlike Cowherd and Kincaid.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

To me Kincaid replaced Madden, so he doesn't have to be very good to be a step up. seibel sounds like he's a media guy who never followed sports who took the first opening available.

 

[RokSki]

To me Kincaid replaced Madden, so he doesn't have to be very good to be a step up.

You're right. I forgot that. After Madden, it's all downhill. God that guy was brutal.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

You mean there are actually people who listen to 680? I thought The Stews had taken over the world.

 

[Rufino]

You mean there are actually people who listen to 680? I thought The Stews had taken over the world.

Stews actually trail Buck and Kincade in the ratings. They've had great success in bringing more black listeners to the AM dial and do put up respectable numbers, but they're going against non sports shows that target their audience like Ryan Cameron in afternoon drive which hurt them. B and K is the one good thing 680's got going for it.

 

[Alma]

I actually heard about three minutes of the Lovie Smith/Tony Dungy commentary. I thought "oh boy" and turned the radio off.

 

[JBHawkEye]

I actually heard about three minutes of the Lovie Smith/Tony Dungy commentary. I thought "oh boy" and turned the radio off.

That was about when I started listening.

I didn't think the guy was a liberal or conservative (frankly, when I listen to sports radio, I don't think about politics). I just thought he was terrible.

 

[Alma]

I have no idea what political party he belongs to, I just know an asshole alert when I hear one. If you want to crab about how nice it is to finally have two black coaches in the Super Bowl, you're an asshole.

 

[RokSki]

I have no idea what political party he belongs to, I just know an asshole alert when I hear one. If you want to crab about how nice it is to finally have two black coaches in the Super Bowl, you're an asshole.

Amen, particularly in the shrill way he was discussing it. Does the storyline get a little tired? Yes. But he was talking about it like a priest would discuss an abortion clinic or something. Asshattitude.

 

[the fop]

FWIW, I liked Buck & Kincaid. Only heard Kincaid solo once. Unremarkable.

ATL folks, who else does 680 have these days? Is that Christopher Rude moron still on? Or the South Carolina guy, Steve something, who mumbled unintelligibly and then laughed at his own mumblings?

 

[BigRed]

Buck and Kincaid are terrible. I've driven through Atlanta at rush hour a few times, minus XM radio, and tuned them in.
I found them shrill and repetitive, a la Jim Rome, and found Buck unremarkable and nasally.
In other words, a pretty typical major-market sports radio call-in show.
As you might be able to tell, I don't listen to sports-talk radio much anymore.

 

[Rufino]

ATL folks, who else does 680 have these days? Is that Christopher Rude moron still on? Or the South Carolina guy, Steve something, who mumbled unintelligibly and then laughed at his own mumblings?

Rude in the mornings along with the dim bulb Perry Laurentino and Jamie Dukes is the only other 680 daily local show. They do ESPN Radio midday.

 

[RadioProgrammer]

Interesting thoughts and commentary all around. It sure seems as if the dissenters listen an awful lot to his work.
I'll weigh in this way. Though I do find many of the same things annoying at times that others do, I find myself compelled to listen to the guy.
I have never found him to be misinformed. I do think that sometimes his takes are out there, but he always explains his reasoning and it is not a "feeling" or a "hunch".
If you look at the national sports radio landscape, the guy is obviously a fast riser. A colleague of mine hired him in the business full time in Atlanta. The guy came from the business world where he was very successful. It was like a Kuselius situation, guy stepping in from out of nowhere to be a sports talk host.
His show has won the battle as the top dog in Atlanta. He has been doing successful afternoon drive for around seven years which is an eternity.
He has his own national radio show and gets the prime fill-in spots on the top sports radio network in the country too.
My guess is that his detractors are going to hear a lot more from him in the coming years. I read recently that he is going to be featured in some national publication as the rising star in the industry or something along those lines.
The guy is doing something right. I know right now that he would help our local product immensely if we could get him. His job is to get people talking and to listen. He seems to accomplish both pretty well.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Swell.
He's still a ****.

 

[Alma]

Radio,

A question: Do you, or can you, differentiate between what is "successful" and what's a quality product?

 

[dawgpounddiehard]

Interesting thoughts and commentary all around. It sure seems as if the dissenters listen an awful lot to his work.
I'll weigh in this way. Though I do find many of the same things annoying at times that others do, I find myself compelled to listen to the guy.
I have never found him to be misinformed. I do think that sometimes his takes are out there, but he always explains his reasoning and it is not a "feeling" or a "hunch".
If you look at the national sports radio landscape, the guy is obviously a fast riser. A colleague of mine hired him in the business full time in Atlanta. The guy came from the business world where he was very successful. It was like a Kuselius situation, guy stepping in from out of nowhere to be a sports talk host.
His show has won the battle as the top dog in Atlanta. He has been doing successful afternoon drive for around seven years which is an eternity.
He has his own national radio show and gets the prime fill-in spots on the top sports radio network in the country too.
My guess is that his detractors are going to hear a lot more from him in the coming years. I read recently that he is going to be featured in some national publication as the rising star in the industry or something along those lines.
The guy is doing something right. I know right now that he would help our local product immensely if we could get him. His job is to get people talking and to listen. He seems to accomplish both pretty well.

Thanks for checking in, John. ;)

 

[Ben_Hecht]

Some might swallow that act, but he'll curl up and die north of the Mason/Dixon line with that swill.

 

[Rufino]

Some might swallow that act, but he'll curl up and die north of the Mason/Dixon line with that swill.

Not sure what specific "swill" you're talking about, but since the guy's a Philly native (and a Temple grad, I believe) I imagine he'd be able to handle himself up north if he needed to.

 

[Babs]

Radio,
A question: Do you, or can you, differentiate between what is "successful" and what's a quality product?

Exactly.

And if you don't think he's misinformed, maybe so are you? I could list examples, but I would give away more than I want to.

 

[Ben_Hecht]

We're talking a matter of degrees here, I believe.

You can roll your eyes at the endless Smith/Dungy material being disseminated, the past two weeks. I did. It WAS overkill. USA TODAY was ridiculous. And I think it's in bounds to say so. But to go on and on and ON about it,
leaks into George Allen, winking/nudging, racist-pandering territory, in my view.

Given we're talking a market that Shapiro managed a toehold in, simply don't feel we're talking
the height of sophistication, here. And, yes, I'm aware that a field in which Mike/Mad Dog is widely viewed as the gold standard, the bar is set, really, really low . . . but JMO.