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dog428

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Had an unbelievable experience tonight.

Go out to dinner with Mrs. dog and some of her friends from work. One of the ladies brings along her boyfriend. As we're all standing around talking before dinner, I start talking with this guy. Seems nice enough. He's sarcastic, somewhat funny and pretty outgoing.

So, we go into the restaurant -- a Mexican place -- and this guy ends up sitting next to me. We've been sitting there for a few minutes when the waiter, a Mexican guy, comes over for the drink order. And that's when this guy starts in on one of the most obnoxious racist rants I've ever encountered, especially from someone I've just met. The guy goes on and on and on about how the "wetbacks" and "spics" are killing the country. And they're not alone, he says. Over the next 30 minutes, he manages to pretty well degrade every race on the planet, except, of course, the white folk.

At first, I'm somewhat taken aback and don't say anything. But as he goes on, I just can't take it any longer. I start killing the guy with logic and make him look rather foolish and ignorant several times. But he's not deterred. Of course, he's aided by his girlfriend, who laughs and defends the jackass. And that just encourages him to keep going.

But here's the weird part about all of this and probably why it took me so long to start firing back: The guy's NOT WHITE. He's half oriental, quarter latino and quarter white. And it's not some combo that's barely noticeable, either. You look at the guy and you automatically think: Mexican or Asian.

I swear to God, it was like I was in some sort of Chappelle skit.
 
I'll bet your buddy got a nice, juicy loogie in his enchilada. And you might've too.
 
He's not white! Alert the media. I thought all bigots were white. Wow!
 
dog428 said:
Had an unbelievable experience tonight.

Go out to dinner with Mrs. dog and some of her friends from work. One of the ladies brings along her boyfriend. As we're all standing around talking before dinner, I start talking with this guy. Seems nice enough. He's sarcastic, somewhat funny and pretty outgoing.

So, we go into the restaurant -- a Mexican place -- and this guy ends up sitting next to me. We've been sitting there for a few minutes when the waiter, a Mexican guy, comes over for the drink order. And that's when this guy starts in on one of the most obnoxious racist rants I've ever encountered, especially from someone I've just met. The guy goes on and on and on about how the "wetbacks" and "spics" are killing the country. And they're not alone, he says. Over the next 30 minutes, he manages to pretty well degrade every race on the planet, except, of course, the white folk.

Was it Vic Morrow?

Had he reattached his head?
 
pallister said:
He's not white! Alert the media. I thought all bigots were white. Wow!

Maybe I should've bolded the part about this guy degrading pretty much every race, including orientals and latinos.

You miss that part?
 
Didn't miss a thing. Just mildly amused at your shock (oh those capital letters) that someone who isn't white could have such bigoted views. The dirty little secret about race relations in this country is that racism doesn't dicriminate. Contrary to the Spike Lees of the world, you don't need "power" to be a racist, all you need to be is hateful. And, unfortunately, hate spans the racial spectrum.
 
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pallister said:
Didn't miss a thing. Just mildly amused at your shock (oh those capital letters) that someone who isn't white could have such bigoted views. The dirty little secret about race relations in this country is that racism doesn't dicriminate. Contrary to the Spike Lees of the world, you don't need "power" to be a racist, all you need to be is hateful. And, unfortunately, hate spans the racial spectrum.

The point is that he trashed his own people.

Never mind. Maybe next time.
 
My point is that too often the debate on race is framed as, literally, a black-and-white issue. I wish it were that simple. But it's not. Again, it's unfortunate, but we shouldn't be surprised by such warped views.

And now I'm thinking about hanging out in a chilled beer room. Thanks.
 
dog428 said:
I start killing the guy with logic and make him look rather foolish and ignorant several times.

But here's the weird part about all of this and probably why it took me so long to start firing back: The guy's NOT WHITE. He's half oriental, quarter latino and quarter white. And it's not some combo that's barely noticeable, either. You look at the guy and you automatically think: Mexican or Asian.

Two points:

1. I always chuckle when people say "I killed the racist with logic and made him look rather foolish and ignorant several times." I always wonder just what kind of "logic" makes these guys look dumber than they already did, and also what kind of "logic" comes into play in such a situation. Especially since "logic" is usually not something his type is interested in.

2. There are those who would say use of the word "oriental" is racist.

(I know this will start the usual chorus of "Jim rome SUCKS!" responses)

The other day, Jim Rome was ranting about how the word "oriental" is racist and such, after the golf announcer (****, forgot his name) used it to describe Tiger's influences from his mom for his latest Major victory. Of course, one of Rome's stoner callers then called in with an old story about seeing Tiger golfing as a kid in which he made fun of Mrs. Woods' accent "She talks in broken english, and it was funny to hear her yell." Rome the hypocrite didn't say a word about making fun of people with foreign accents after his little rant about Oriental.

Anyway, point is some would say that word in and of itself is racist. My wife - who happens to be half Japanese, her mother who emigrated here in the 1960s - notes that people freak out at the usage of "Oriental", since Asian could mean India, Pakistan, etc. while "oriental" is more specific.

I'm not from the Far east, and I'm not someone who tells other people what should offend them, so I can't comment either way.  
 
Just when you think you've heard it all ...

The Age of Enlightenment is indeed upon us.  ::)
 
I just think it shows a lack of forsight in choosing a screen name when our author must refer to his wife as "Mrs. Dog" ;D
 
Cadet said:
I just think it shows a lack of forsight in choosing a screen name when our author must refer to his wife as "Mrs. Dog" ;D

But does that say worse about the Mrs. or the Dog? 8)
 
pallister said:
Didn't miss a thing. Just mildly amused at your shock (oh those capital letters) that someone who isn't white could have such bigoted views. The dirty little secret about race relations in this country is that racism doesn't dicriminate. Contrary to the Spike Lees of the world, you don't need "power" to be a racist, all you need to be is hateful. And, unfortunately, hate spans the racial spectrum.

Yeah, I'm thinking you did. But just keep posting on the "so often overlooked side of racism" and maybe you can convince somebody that you didn't.

Please, tell us all how we've overlooked the huge racial issue of someone of a particular race degrading someone else of the same race. I thought it was somewhat of a rarity, but obviously, I'm mistaken.
 

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