Ohio execution postponed after guards can't get IV started

[deskslave]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32878025/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

They spent two hours trying to set up the IV, including going in through his legs at one point.

One wonders if there's any other option. Seems as though this guy's veins just simply will not hold up.

 

[TigerVols]

Re: Ohio execution postponed after veins collapse

Yeah, the option is to realize this sort of stuff is barbaric, and cruel and unusual punishment, and then commute his sentence to life in prison w/o parole.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Re: Ohio execution postponed after veins collapse

How quickly can they get a firing squad together?

 

[CarltonBanks]

Re: Ohio execution postponed after veins collapse

Stop feeding him in a Terry Schiavo-esque manner.

 

[YGBFKM]

Re: Ohio execution postponed after veins collapse

Did it say in the story "veins collapsed"? Did I miss that part?

 

[deskslave]

Re: Ohio execution postponed after veins collapse

I read another story that said they got a line established at one point, but that it collapsed when they started a saline flow.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Firing squads can usually find a vein.

 

[verbalkint]

We must keep this man alive and get him back to full strength so that we can kill him.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

We must keep this man alive and get him back to full strength so that we can kill him.

Have they tried a plastic bag over the face?

 

[YGBFKM]

Firing squads can usually find a vein.

That cracked me up.

 

[deskslave]

Firing squads can usually find a vein.

That cracked me up.

I'm no death penalty proponent, but it was quite well-struck, I must agree.

 

[Shoeless Joe]

a rope will collapse the wind pipe nicely

 

[zeke12]

In case anyone was wondering -- and I was, because the AP left the actual decision out of their otherwise excellent story -- the Supreme Court precedent on this is the case of Willie Francis, who was electrocuted but not killed by the state of Louisiana in 1946.

The SC held, in a 5-4 decision, that the state could take another crack at killing Francis. The dissent asked, quite rationally, I think, how many failed executions it would take to constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

Also, as far as I can find, lethal injection is the only legal method of execution in Ohio.

Anyway, that's a messed up story.

 

[YGBFKM]

I knew that. I feel smart, but gimme five minutes.

 

[Moderator1]

In case anyone was wondering -- and I was, because the AP left the actual decision out of their otherwise excellent story -- the Supreme Court precedent on this is the case of Willie Francis, who was electrocuted but not killed by the state of Louisiana in 1946.

The SC held, in a 5-4 decision, that the state could take another crack at killing Francis. The dissent asked, quite rationally, I think, how many failed executions it would take to constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

Also, as far as I can find, lethal injection is the only legal method of execution in Ohio.

Anyway, that's a messed up story.

If he didn't die, he wasn't electrocuted.
If you don't die, you aren't strangled.
If you don't die, you didn't drown.

 

[deskslave]

In case anyone was wondering -- and I was, because the AP left the actual decision out of their otherwise excellent story -- the Supreme Court precedent on this is the case of Willie Francis, who was electrocuted but not killed by the state of Louisiana in 1946.

The SC held, in a 5-4 decision, that the state could take another crack at killing Francis. The dissent asked, quite rationally, I think, how many failed executions it would take to constitute cruel and unusual punishment.

Also, as far as I can find, lethal injection is the only legal method of execution in Ohio.

Anyway, that's a messed up story.

I think the argument from the defense was actually that he had in fact already been executed. The court said no, if he'd been executed, he'd be dead.

The electric chair had apparently been set up by a couple of drunk trusties; this was back in the days when the chair came to you, rather than the other way around.

 

[HackyMcHack]

Ohio had Old Sparky before they went to the needle within the past couple of decades. Not sure if Ohio has a law allowing for an alternate form of execution, including bringing back Old Sparky. But, since he didn't assassinate a political/judicial figure, have a hand in 9-11 or pull a Ted Bundy or a DC sniper, I'd be just as satisfied if he got life at hard labor somewhere above the arctic circle or in the middle of the Arizona desert ... make him wish he was dead.

 

[Killick]

All this talk of courts deciding executions...
OMIGOD! DEATH PANELS! THEY DO EXIST!
Damn that commie president...

 

[Double J]

In case anyone was wondering -- and I was, because the AP left the actual decision out of their otherwise excellent story -- the Supreme Court precedent on this is the case of Willie Francis, who was electrocuted but not killed by the state of Louisiana in 1946.

 

[YGBFKM]

An awesomely good bad movie.