Obama Wins Politico Straw Poll (Hillary 3rd Behind Edwards!)

[Deeper_Background]

Obama's red meat speech must have went down well with liberal activists... Senator Barack Obama scored a victory among progressive activists Wednesday, winning the Politico.com Straw Poll of attendees at the Take Back America Conference in Washington.

Obama received 29% of the 720 votes cast in the straw poll, narrowly beating out former North Carolina Senator John Edwards, and decisively knocking official front-runner Hillary Clinton into third place.

Edwards took 26% of the vote and Clinton 17%.

The poll establishes Obama and Edwards as a two-man top tier among the liberal segment of the Democratic base, said pollster Stan Greenberg, because they were also the most popular second choices for the nomination.

New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson came in fourth with 9% of the vote.

Al Gore came in fifth with 8% -- although he has not said he is running and was not included in the choices on the ballot. (Dennis Kuchinch got 5% and Gravel came in last with 1%)
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=191651

 

[Chi City 81]

Re: Obama Wins Politico Straw Poll (Hillary 3rd!)

The virus has once again infiltrated SportsJournalists.com.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

Re: Obama Wins Politico Straw Poll (Hillary 3rd!)

I guess he can start picking out furniture and making plans for January 20th, 2009?

 

[HejiraHenry]

Re: Obama Wins Politico Straw Poll (Hillary 3rd!)

This reminds me of the breathless coverage of the NBA East race.

The winner earns the chance to get swept in the finals.

 

[Chi City 81]

Re: Obama Wins Politico Straw Poll (Hillary 3rd!)

This reminds me of the breathless coverage of the NBA East race.

The winner earns the chance to get swept in the finals.

You still think a GOP candidate's going to win?

 

[Deeper_Background]

This reminds me of the breathless coverage of the NBA East race.

The winner earns the chance to get swept in the finals.

Not so fast, Rudy & Hilly are tied now in most state polling...

 

[HejiraHenry]

This reminds me of the breathless coverage of the NBA East race.

The winner earns the chance to get swept in the finals.

You still think a GOP candidate's going to win?

Yes.

The dilemma the Democrats face is that if you ask the general public if they would prefer to elect a (generic) Democrat as president, they'll say yes. This is a straight anti-Bush play, of course.

But if you give that Democrat a name, the bottom falls out. All of their candidates are fatally flawed in some fashion or other.

The hard left will sit out if H–––––Y is the candidate, for instance.

Obama? A figment of the media's imagination, as was McCain on the red side of the ledger.

Gore. Oh please please please PLEASE PLEEZ run again.

 

[ADifferentOkie]

This reminds me of the breathless coverage of the NBA East race.

The winner earns the chance to get swept in the finals.

You still think a GOP candidate's going to win?

Yes.

The dilemma the Democrats face is that if you ask the general public if they would prefer to elect a (generic) Democrat as president, they'll say yes. This is a straight anti-Bush play, of course.

But if you give that Democrat a name, the bottom falls out. All of their candidates are fatally flawed in some fashion or other.

The hard left will sit out if H–––––Y is the candidate, for instance.

Obama? A figment of the media's imagination, as was McCain on the red side of the ledger.

Gore. Oh please please please PLEASE PLEEZ run again.

Interesting take. I think all of the Repubs have serious flaws.
I think McCain's anger and support of the war does him in.
Guliani has personal problems and I still can't seem this country voting for someone based on his being Mayor of NYC on 9/11 (it's as bad as Kerry's campaign being, "I served in Vietnam.").
Romney won't win because of his religion. I made this argument before, but I believe too many of the fundamentalists who made up Bush's base would never vote for a Mormon, though I do think he is the strongest candidate for the right (wrong) wing.

 

[spnited]

So please tell us, Henry. Who is this Republican candidate that is going to win?

 

[Giggity]

I really really really hate to say it, but Fred Thompson is going to be the next president. See Reagan, Ronald and Schwarzenegger, Arnold if you think it's far-fetched. It's too stupid NOT to happen.

 

[ifilus]

I really really really hate to say it, but Fred Thompson is going to be the next president. See Reagan, Ronald and Schwarzenegger, Arnold if you think it's far-fetched. It's too stupid NOT to happen.

Well then this will be our next first lady:

 

[Big Chee]

I really really really hate to say it, but Fred Thompson is going to be the next president. See Reagan, Ronald and Schwarzenegger, Arnold if you think it's far-fetched. It's too stupid NOT to happen.

Well then this will be our next first lady:

umm.....looks like Fred's a winner whether or not he wins the presidency.....

 

[spinning27]

I really really really hate to say it, but Fred Thompson is going to be the next president. See Reagan, Ronald and Schwarzenegger, Arnold if you think it's far-fetched. It's too stupid NOT to happen.

Thompson won't win. He does not believe the Bush people have done anything wrong in pursuing the war with Iraq.

 

[Deeper_Background]

I really really really hate to say it, but Fred Thompson is going to be the next president. See Reagan, Ronald and Schwarzenegger, Arnold if you think it's far-fetched. It's too stupid NOT to happen.

Well then this will be our next first lady:

umm.....looks like Fred's a winner whether or not he wins the presidency.....

Plus he's knocked her up twice already so it would be difficult for her to leave! :)

 

[bostonbred]

cool...i have an obama bumper sticker.

 

[Point of Order]

I think Obama's supporters are the most passionate of any candidate in the race. I know that's kind of like Team A's fans are more passionate that Team B's, but it is demonstrable in the candidates' public appearances. I was in Selma when Obama and HRC were speaking at churches about 500 yards apart from one another and there was a perceptible difference in the size of the crowd for each. Obama's crowds are like that everywhere he goes.

It's kind of reminiscent of my understanding of Bobby Kennedy's campaign. We'll see how much this passion means on Feb. 5, but I do believe it could help Obama great in a place like Iowa, where the ground game is so important. I can see him bussing in volunteers from all over the country to canvass for votes in the 10 days leading up to the Iowa Caucuses.

And I certainly can't envision double H's GOP sweep to victory theory for a number of reasons. First, the mid-term elections where guys like Tester (lightweight) and Webb (lightweight) won against presumptively strong GOP candidates, where a black Democrat got 49.4% of the vote against a white republican (in Tennessee!!), where Claire McKaskill beat an incumbent republican in Missourri, the American Heartland, where red states turned blue more towards the west.

Unless the climate changes or unless Fred Thompson really is a reincarnation of Reagan, I don't see how a republican is a shoo in for the White House in '08.

 

[HackyMcHack]

Let's say Clinton is the Dem, Thompson the Rep. Bloomberg runs, with Lieberman as his running mate.

Clinton carries the west coast, Minnesota and Illinois. Thompson carries the South and the Rockies. Bloomberg takes the rest of the Rust Belt and the Northeast. Flip a coin between Clinton and Bloomberg on New York. Will anyone be able to reach 270?

Let's make this more interesting. What if Gore runs as a Green? This election could get funky....

 

[Cansportschick]

I think a lot of people don't realize how much of a dark horse Edwards is in this race. I think he has potential to win the nomination over Obama and Hilary.

 

[dooley_womack1]

I'm so looking forward to a Democratic presidential win and an increased Congressional majority in 2008. U.S. out of the debacle within a year, tax breaks for the middle class, a bankruptcy law no written by the credit card companies, unfettered stem cell research. I see no reason why that will not be the result.

 

[statrat]

I think a lot of people don't realize how much of a dark horse Edwards is in this race. I think he has potential to win the nomination over Obama and Hilary.

I agree. I think eventually the Democratic Party will wake up and realize Hillary is just not electable outside of the liberal bastions and that Obama just does not have the experience to win. I think Edwards or Richardson (if he can ever figure out how to have a good debate or television appearance) are more electable for the Democrats, and Huckabee or Thompson will probably come out of the Republican side.