Obama vs. other great orators

[Pringle]

Who are some of the great ones?

Martin Luther King?

Bill Clinton?

Winston Churchill?

Does Obama have the potential to join the greats some day? He certainly seems like it.

 

[Montezuma's Revenge]

Obama is quite articulate. [ducking]

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

He ain't no Demosthenes.

 

[Oz]

You forgot to mention William Jennings Bryan, who lost three times as the Democratic candidate for president. Though some scholars suggest that the Cowardly Lion in "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" was based on him.

 

[Montezuma's Revenge]

Well, let us not forget former major league outfielder Orator Shaffer, who, incidentally, had exactly 1,000 career hits.

 

[Pringle]

Was FDR one? Or was he more of the folksy, relate-to-everyman school of GWB?

 

[buckweaver]

Was FDR one? Or was he more of the folksy, relate-to-everyman school of GWB?

Actually, both.

He was a great Everyman during the Depression, and he was a great orator during WWII.

 

[Montezuma's Revenge]

And let's not forget Bluto Blutarsky

D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the **** happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: LET'S DO IT!

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

There ought to be separate categories for people who write their own stuff and people who are good at reading good speeches (Reagan, JFK).

 

[Point of Order]

Obama vs.

 

[Chuck~Taylor]

Obama vs.

Fool me once........

 

[Point of Order]

Fool me once........

Won't be fooled again? Top 10 moments.

 

[Chuck~Taylor]

Fool me once........

Won't be fooled again? Top 10 moments.

;D

 

[Point of Order]

It also seems that he's got a little off-the-cuff punch to him, responding in Iowa to criticism from the Australian Prime Minister.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21210989-1702,00.html

US presidential candidate Barack Obama has told Prime Minister John Howard to put up or shut up.
Mr Obama, speaking at a packed press conference in Iowa today, said if MrHoward was concerned about the situation in Iraq he should send 20,000 Australian troops to the strife-torn nation.

The Illinois senator added that if Mr Howard did not send the troops, then the prime minister's attack on the Democrat presidential hopeful's Iraq policy was "empty rhetoric''.

"I would also note that we have close to 140,000 troops on the ground now and my understanding is that Mr Howard has deployed 1400,''Mr Obama, who next year could become the first African American to be elected US president, said.

"So, if he's ginned up to fight the good fight in Iraq, I would suggest he calls up another 20,000 Australians and sends them up to Iraq.

"Otherwise, it's just a bunch of empty rhetoric.''

Mr Howard sparked the war of words yesterday when he took the extraordinary step of declaring that he hoped Mr Obama did not become president of the US, and that his election would be disastrous for the war on terrorism.

Mr Howard said Mr Obama's plan to pull America's combat brigades out of Iraq by March 31, 2008, was a strategy that would "destabilise and destroy Iraq, and create chaos and a victory for the terrorists''.

"If I were running al-Qaeda in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008 and be praying as many times as possible for a victory, not only for Obama but also for the Democrats,'' Mr Howard said.

Mr Howard's comments came a day after Mr Obama officially launched his US presidential campaign and the clash quickly became one of the top news stories in the US.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Clinton was that most dangerous of orators -- a guy who can't write who thinks he can.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Who are some of the great ones?

Martin Luther King?

Bill Clinton?

Winston Churchill?

Does Obama have the potential to join the greats some day? He certainly seems like it.

The lines still seem read to me.

Reagan was an all-time great.

 

[Simon_Cowbell]

Who are some of the great ones?

Martin Luther King?

Bill Clinton?

Winston Churchill?

Does Obama have the potential to join the greats some day? He certainly seems like it.

Clinton before JFK? Though a good speaker with charisma, Clinton was so obviously coached that it often came off as phony.

absolutely.

 

[Guy_Incognito]

Clinton was not a great orator, he was a charasmatic speaker. His substance was very unmemorable, but you felt like it was by the force of his personality. Unfortunately, the best orators now are fringe nuts, like Sharpton, Buchanan & Keyes. I haven't seen enough of Obama to know where he fits in.