NL ROY

[Columbo]

With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

103 R
13 HRs
49 RBI
44 SB

.287 BA
.814 OPS

 

[Trey Beamon]

With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

103 R
13 HRs
49 RBI
44 SB

.287 BA
.814 OPS

Hanley's been tremendous; did not think he'd hit for power so soon.

I'm going with Zimmerman, though: Good offensive numbers (particularly doubles, RBIs) in a horrible ballpark/lineup. Defense isn't bad at third, either.

Fanboy pick, er, runner-up: Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh

 

[Moderator1]

Fielder no longer a candidate? The dude from LA?

 

[Columbo]

With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

103 R
13 HRs
49 RBI
44 SB

.287 BA
.814 OPS

Hanley's been tremendous; did not think he'd hit for power so soon.

I'm going with Zimmerman, though: Good offensive numbers (particularly doubles, RBIs) in a horrible ballpark/lineup. Defense isn't bad at third, either.

Fanboy pick, er, runner-up: Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh

Marlins ballpark is a worse hitters park.

Unlike MVP, I DO believe rookies contributing to a playoff drive should get extra consideration. To succeed in the crucible your first time through is pretty incredible.

Fielder folded like a pup tent as Milwaukee collapsed, and Ethier, to me, doesn't have the at-bats... though you are right, at this moment, they should be options other than Olsen and Willingham.

Zimmerman? OPS is a mere .15 better than Hanley, Ramirez plays a tougher position.

Oh, and then you have to toss in the SBs at some point.

 

[bigpern23]

With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

103 R
13 HRs
49 RBI
44 SB

.287 BA
.814 OPS

Hanley's been tremendous; did not think he'd hit for power so soon.

I'm going with Zimmerman, though: Good offensive numbers (particularly doubles, RBIs) in a horrible ballpark/lineup. Defense isn't bad at third, either.

Fanboy pick, er, runner-up: Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh

Marlins ballpark is a worse hitters park.

Unlike MVP, I DO believe rookies contributing to a playoff drive should get extra consideration. To succeed in the crucible your first time through is pretty incredible.

Fielder folded like a pup tent as Milwaukee collapsed, and Ethier, to me, doesn't have the at-bats... though you are right, at this moment, they should be options other than Olsen and Willingham.

Zimmerman? OPS is a mere .15 better than Hanley, Ramirez plays a tougher position.

Oh, and then you have to toss in the SBs at some point.

Are you saying MVP votes SHOULDN'T take playoff position/drives into account, but ROY votes SHOULD?

 

[DyePack]

Cubs SS Ronny Cedeno.

 

[shotglass]

Good choice, but ...

Defense isn't bad at third, either.

... that's damning him with faint praise. Zimmerman is already one of the best defensive third basemen to ever take the field. He has made plays this season which just have not been seen before.

 

[Trey Beamon]

Good choice, but ...

Defense isn't bad at third, either.

... that's damning him with faint praise. Zimmerman is already one of the best defensive third basemen to ever take the field. He has made plays this season which just have not been seen before.

Forgot to use the sarcasm font, shot. He's fantastic over there.

I'm just shocked he lasted until the fourth overall pick last year. I'd much rather have Zimmerman than Alex Gordon -- a fine prospect in his own right -- the next 5-7 years.

 

[shotglass]

Great. Just great. Now I feel stupid, and it's all your fault.

 

[Columbo]

With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

103 R
13 HRs
49 RBI
44 SB

.287 BA
.814 OPS

Hanley's been tremendous; did not think he'd hit for power so soon.

I'm going with Zimmerman, though: Good offensive numbers (particularly doubles, RBIs) in a horrible ballpark/lineup. Defense isn't bad at third, either.

Fanboy pick, er, runner-up: Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh

Marlins ballpark is a worse hitters park.

Unlike MVP, I DO believe rookies contributing to a playoff drive should get extra consideration. To succeed in the crucible your first time through is pretty incredible.

Fielder folded like a pup tent as Milwaukee collapsed, and Ethier, to me, doesn't have the at-bats... though you are right, at this moment, they should be options other than Olsen and Willingham.

Zimmerman? OPS is a mere .15 better than Hanley, Ramirez plays a tougher position.

Oh, and then you have to toss in the SBs at some point.

Are you saying MVP votes SHOULDN'T take playoff position/drives into account, but ROY votes SHOULD?

With four weeks left, Ramirez has pushed ahead for me. Wonderful offensive numbers in addition to great defense.

103 R
13 HRs
49 RBI
44 SB

.287 BA
.814 OPS

Hanley's been tremendous; did not think he'd hit for power so soon.

I'm going with Zimmerman, though: Good offensive numbers (particularly doubles, RBIs) in a horrible ballpark/lineup. Defense isn't bad at third, either.

Fanboy pick, er, runner-up: Ronny Paulino, Pittsburgh

Marlins ballpark is a worse hitters park.

Unlike MVP, I DO believe rookies contributing to a playoff drive should get extra consideration. To succeed in the crucible your first time through is pretty incredible.

Fielder folded like a pup tent as Milwaukee collapsed, and Ethier, to me, doesn't have the at-bats... though you are right, at this moment, they should be options other than Olsen and Willingham.

Zimmerman? OPS is a mere .15 better than Hanley, Ramirez plays a tougher position.

Oh, and then you have to toss in the SBs at some point.

Are you saying MVP votes SHOULDN'T take playoff position/drives into account, but ROY votes SHOULD?

I wrote that poorly.

I meant that I would give it greater weight for a rookie.

 

[Space Monkey]

Great crop of rookies.

I'll add one more name to the list: St. Louis Cardinals OF Chris Duncan.

In 66 games, Duncan is hitting .323 with 15 home runs, 31 RBIs and 45 runs scored.

I don't think he deserves the award more than Hanley Ramirez or Ryan Zimmerman, but he should be somewhere in the conversation. If he's able to finish the season strong, he could end up with good numbers and make sure the Cardinals win the NL Central.

 

[Columbo]

Great crop of rookies.

I'll add one more name to the list: St. Louis Cardinals OF Chris Duncan.

In 66 games, Duncan is hitting .323 with 15 home runs, 31 RBIs and 45 runs scored.

I don't think he deserves the award more than Hanley Ramirez or Ryan Zimmerman, but he should be somewhere in the conversation. If he's able to finish the season strong, he could end up with good numbers and make sure the Cardinals win the NL Central.

Just not enough at-bats to compete with this crew, I feel.

Also, his largely platoon status, mentioned on another thread, hurts him too.

 

[Columbo]

Uggla hits No. 22, with the Marlins up by a run in the seventh.

8-5 Marlins.

I think he is three from setting the MLB record for rookie 2Bs.

 

[Trey Beamon]

Uggla hits No. 22, with the Marlins up by a run in the seventh.

8-5 Marlins.

Quite the Rule 5 pickup, huh? I know he was left unprotected, but was Uggla ever highly regarded by the D-Backs, or was he more of an organizational filler-type guy?

 

[Columbo]

Uggla hits No. 22, with the Marlins up by a run in the seventh.

8-5 Marlins.

Quite the Rule 5 pickup, huh? I know he was left unprotected, but was Uggla ever highly regarded by the D-Backs, or was he more of an organizational filler-type guy?

I had never heard of the guy till the Marlins picked him up.

 

[Oz]

I voted Zimmerman. And it's not even close.

 

[Columbo]

I voted Zimmerman. And it's not even close.

And logic flies out the ****ing window again.

Incredible what lengths people will go to to not agree with me.

 

[Freelance Hack]

While I really like Uggla, there are too many Marlins in the field to really give any of them a chance.

Zimmerman, who should be in most people's top three, should take the award just on that alone. Not saying he is the top rookie, but that's how I see it playing out.

 

[Columbo]

While I really like Uggla, there are too many Marlins in the field to really give any of them a chance.

Zimmerman, who should be in most people's top three, should take the award just on that alone. Not saying he is the top rookie, but that's how I see it playing out.

The question WAS "who is most deserving" of the award.

If Zimmerman gets it, it's a typical travesty by the baseball writers.

How the **** can a guy with lesser numbers AND on a team a million games out of first be more deserving.

I would love to hear some facts that show how he is more deserving than any of the top three Marlins.

 

[Freelance Hack]

While I really like Uggla, there are too many Marlins in the field to really give any of them a chance.

Zimmerman, who should be in most people's top three, should take the award just on that alone. Not saying he is the top rookie, but that's how I see it playing out.

The question WAS "who is most deserving" of the award.

If Zimmerman gets it, it's a typical travesty by the baseball writers.

How the **** can a guy with lesser numbers AND on a team a million games out of first be more deserving.

I would love to hear some facts that show how he is more deserving than any of the top three Marlins.

And my answer is Uggla. To me, he's most deserving. But when one team has multiple candidates, they will split the vote.

And, to me, ROY should focus more on the individual's talents and season than the team's. Zimmerman has 93 RBI and his OPS is comparable to Uggla's and Willingham's.

For me, my top five are:

Uggla
Zimmerman
Ramirez
Willingham
Fielder

You don't like it, fine. But you don't ask for opinions and then rip people for offering them.