Mistakes

[Mr. X]

We all make them, but this correction in our paper pointed out an especially awful one:

In [headline on story] the subhead should have read “cost” instead of “costed” (which is a word the [name of newspaper] made up but it not found in the dictionary.

How anyone could have written "costed" in a subhead is beyond me.  This was for a news story in a weekly newspaper, not a night sports story in a daily newspaper, so deadline pressure could not have been the reason.  (I haven't asked and won't ask how this happened.)

A good argument could have been made not to run a correction on this, because it did not involve a name or factual issue.

If anyone else has seen some especially awful errors in print lately, please feel free to share them here.

 

[Ace]

I wouldn't have run a correction on it, though I bet it costed the paper some credibility.

 

[DyePack]

These days I hesitate to point out mistakes here because the reaction is often: "We work hard! How dare you point out any mistakes!" Or there's a lot of backtracking and excuses. (See: Harrison, Rodney released before June 1.) I tend to think few other industries are so loathe to address quality issues. (No need to point out lots of ad hominems and non-sequiturs to try to "prove" me wrong, BTW.)

That being said, I'll throw one out anyway. A major daily had a picture of one of the pitchers eligible for the major league draft. The article referred to him as a lefty. The photo showed him throwing as a lefty. Yet the cutline referred to him as a righty.

This is more than just the usual "photog-can't-write-a-cutline" stupidity. All of the correct information was there. No one caught it.

Sadly, this is becoming more of a trend.

 

[reformedhack]

You're right -- more and more sloppy mistakes are cropping up in print these days. Now, I know newspapers have always made mistakes, being a human-produced endeavor and all, but the rate of stupid stuff making it into print has increased dramatically over the past six or seven years or so. And here's why:

The introduction of pagination, combined with staff reductions. In other words, not enough people having to do too many things on deadline.

Just a thought. Agree? Disagree?

 

[LemMan]

I agree...but I make my share of mistakes too, so I'm not about to blame this solely on the paginators...and I'm not saying you are, either.

 

[Ace]

You're right -- more and more sloppy mistakes are cropping up in print these days. Now, I know newspapers have always made mistakes, being a human-produced endeavor and all, but the rate of stupid stuff making it into print has increased dramatically over the past six or seven years or so. And here's why:

The introduction of pagination, combined with staff reductions. In other words, not enough people having to do too many things on deadline.

Just a thought. Agree? Disagree?

Pagination means we can get rid of all those composing room people and save all those FTEs

Never mind that it adds work on the production end and costs more time.

 

[audreyld]

I do believe there has been a steady decline in love for the craft of writing and the process of editing writing.

Not trying to spawn a copy editors vs. designers debate, just saying that the process of editing copy has a place, and we're losing respect for it, and a desire to do it.

 

[Mutah]

Yep. Mistakes hurt. My rag ran a page 2 headline that said something was "inproperly" conducted. Uh... gggguuuhhh!

And there's also a website now devoted to them: http://www.regrettheerror.com/

 

[DyePack]

Regrettheerror merely lists corrections. Rarely does it go into detail about why the mistake occurred.

 

[sportschick]

I do believe there has been a steady decline in love for the craft of writing and the process of editing writing.

Not trying to spawn a copy editors vs. designers debate, just saying that the process of editing copy has a place, and we're losing respect for it, and a desire to do it.

I think most of the problem with the copy editing vs. design thing is that we're expected to do both. I know that I get pages to proof late at the same time I'm trying to finish off scoreboard and baseball. I don't have time to do a good job of proofing the front and other pages and finish up my own pages.

I'd catch more mistakes on proofs, and I'd be a better copy editor if I wasn't also trying to design pages during the same shifts.

 

[DyePack]

I do believe there has been a steady decline in love for the craft of writing and the process of editing writing.

Not trying to spawn a copy editors vs. designers debate, just saying that the process of editing copy has a place, and we're losing respect for it, and a desire to do it.

The people who fall into those last two categories have a place, and that place should not be on the copy desks of newspapers.

 

[Stupid]

Because of low pay, the industry no longer attracts the best and brightest, especially at the level of the weeklies.

 

[DyePack]

Because of low pay, the industry no longer attracts the best and brightest, especially at the level of the weeklies.

Plenty of $ for page design, though. Seems the priorities may be out of whack.

 

[Stupid]

Newspaper design is pretty easy compared to other forms of graphic design. My background is in graphic design. I was a production artist for a company in SF that produced packaging for the wine industry. Creating artwork and producing mechanicals for a 500K run of spot color wine labels is much more intense than slapping together a 4/color, 8-page sports section that will run on newsprint.

At least that's my take, having done both.

 

[slipshod]

This may be slightly off topic, but my first newspaper job, we had to put our names in the correction and say we regretted the error, as in reporter Slip Shod regrets the error. I had so many people thought regrets the error was my last name.

 

[JME]

This thread is the equivalent of an extra birthday for DyePack. ;D

 

[pallister]

Finding people who actually want to read copy as a profession is getting harder and harder. I get the feeling that copy editing is seen as the assembly-line aspect of newspaper production by many. I do both but prefer the creative outlet from page design. I think many people who do both may feel the same way, and I'm sure design, in its myriad forms, is more appealing to college kids when they start moving in the direction of what they want to do as a career.

I also think it's a hell of a lot harder to learn to be a good copy editor than a good designer.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

Here's an interesting take on the subject of typos from a book author:

http://www.johntreed.com/HTWPtypos.html

Even in newspapers I tend to agree with this statement:

"...typos hide with great skill before the book is printed. But after it is printed, they leap out at the reader."

 

[Mr. X]

Because of low pay, the industry no longer attracts the best and brightest, especially at the level of the weeklies.

The pay for this position is fine.  The problem is the person responsible for this isn't very experienced or skilled and shouldn't have been hired.

A few weeks earlier there was a correction which said "the word ‘taught’ should have been ‘teacher’," she misidentified an assistant principal as a principal and made some jurisdictional mistakes, by putting buildings and cities in the wrong cities and counties.

There also doesn't seem to be a sufficient commitment to quality.

 

[shotglass]

I'm often torn between the urge to spell out how a mistake was made so readers understand it, and the knowledge that readers don't want to know how the hot dogs are made.

But I've got to admit, it's irritating when a reader calls in about a mistake and thinks they know exactly how it was made and who should be fired IMMEDIATELY for it.