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cranberry said:
Toss-up between Mets and Phillies. Fish aren't good enough.

Fish are only two games back, the Phillies have issues and apparently this Mets team is overrated. According to Mets fanboi losers on our baseball threads, the team's pitchers all suck garden hose --- or should.
 
Check back after the trade deadline. If the Mets don't get some bullpen help I don't see them winning. Marlins aren't quite ready yet. I could see the Phils sneaking in again.
 
Depends. Is the disembodied arm of Tom Seaver going to come back and pitch for the Metropolitan nine?
 
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2muchcoffeeman said:
cranberry said:
Toss-up between Mets and Phillies. Fish aren't good enough.

Fish are only two games back, the Phillies have issues and apparently this Mets team is overrated. According to Mets fanboi losers on our baseball threads, the team's pitchers all suck garden hose --- or should.

Everybody always complains, of course, but both the Mets and Phillies are superior to the Marlins in terms of talent. Not even close, really.
 
Plus, I don't see Marlins management wanting to go out and get anyone at the trade deadline. They have the lowest payroll in baseball by far, and are happy with it.
 
Where did you go, Jon Matlack?
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cranberry said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
cranberry said:
Toss-up between Mets and Phillies. Fish aren't good enough.

Fish are only two games back, the Phillies have issues and apparently this Mets team is overrated. According to Mets fanboi losers on our baseball threads, the team's pitchers all suck garden hose --- or should.

Everybody always complains, of course, but both the Mets and Phillies are superior to the Marlins in terms of talent. Not even close, really.
Honestly.... are you ****ing crazy?
 
I can see where someone might pick both over the Marlins.

But to say, especially with the Marlins' current rotation, that it isn't close..... holy christ.
 
Marlins are better than people give them credit for.
The way Johan, Pelfry and Perez are pitching gives the Mets the best top 3 pitchers but Maine is now a question, as is Pedro, Perez could blow up at any time and the bullpen is lethal.
Phils have not hit consistently the way people thought they would and the starting pitching is shaky.

If Delgado keeps hitting, the Mets get a slight edge ... but they will find a way to blow it.
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
I can see where someone might pick both over the Marlins.

But to say, especially with the Marlins' current rotation, that it isn't close..... holy christ.

I think Johnson's return makes them better, too, but I don't see a lot of sure things there, either. At least the Mets have Santana and the Phillies have Hamels.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Nolasco, Olson and Johnson fade down the stretch and it is a little early to declare Volstad as ready to be a consistant quallity pitcher.

Funny thing is, as much as people criticize the Phillies' pitching, they are fourth in the NL with a 3.99 team ERA, just ahead of the Mets. The Marlins' team ERA is 4.60, with only the Pirates and Rockies between them and the bottom of the league.
 
outofplace said:
Funny thing is, as much as people criticize the Phillies' pitching, they are fourth in the NL with a 3.99 team ERA, just ahead of the Mets. The Marlins' team ERA is 4.60, with only the Pirates and Rockies between them and the bottom of the league.

Nolasco's a stud, no doubt, Johnson is very promising and Olsen can be excellent at times. But the Mets and Phillies both have better and deeper pitching, better defense and much better offenses than the Marlins. The Fish are a very flawed team. You get what you pay for.
 
They are all seriosuly flawed teams, cran. The Marlins a little more flawed than the other two.

Another thing in Mets favor is their dominance of the Phils so far ... but it ain't September choke time yet
 
cranberry said:
outofplace said:
Funny thing is, as much as people criticize the Phillies' pitching, they are fourth in the NL with a 3.99 team ERA, just ahead of the Mets. The Marlins' team ERA is 4.60, with only the Pirates and Rockies between them and the bottom of the league.

Nolasco's a stud, no doubt, Johnson is very promising and Olsen can be excellent at times. But the Mets and Phillies both have better and deeper pitching, better defense and much better offenses than the Marlins. The Fish are a very flawed team. You get what you pay for.

Yeah ... if they paid a ****load of money like the Yankees do ... oh, wait ...
 
spnited said:
They are all seriosuly flawed teams, cran. The Marlins a little more flawed than the other two.

Another thing in Mets favor is their dominance of the Phils so far ... but it ain't September choke time yet

I just wonder how long they can get by with that outfield. It's tough to count on Fernando Tatis to keep hitting.
 

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