McCain hoping for racism to rear its head??

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If you read **** Morris today in the Washington Post, he advises McCain to run to the center and abandon the right-wing pandering he's been engaged in for the last eight years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051603729.html

However, this article today seems to indicate that McCain is going to label himself as a "conservative Republican" and Obama as a "liberal Democrat," hoping that the election ultimately comes down to race.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080518/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_beating_obama;_ylt=AppEJBnwpHJFfQdMfGID5sGs0NUE

Thoughts?
 
spinning27 said:
If you read **** Morris today in the Washington Post, he advises McCain to run to the center and abandon the right-wing pandering he's been engaged in for the last eight years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051603729.html

However, this article today seems to indicate that McCain is going to label himself as a "conservative Republican" and Obama as a "liberal Democrat," hoping that the election ultimately comes down to race.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080518/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_beating_obama;_ylt=AppEJBnwpHJFfQdMfGID5sGs0NUE

Thoughts?

My main thought is that absolutely nowhere in that article does it even remotely suggest that McCain is hoping for racism to surface, even though you slapped that on the heading of the thread.
 
It's not an unreasonable question to ask, because whether he's hoping for it or not, he'll likely benefit from it.
 
Beaker said:
It's not an unreasonable question to ask, because whether he's hoping for it or not, he'll likely benefit from it.

And based on the demographics of some primary results, Obama will benefit from people voting for him simply because he's not white.

This is such a circular argument. Yes, race is an issue. Can either candidate gain a clear advantage from that?
 
PCLoadLetter said:
spinning27 said:
If you read **** Morris today in the Washington Post, he advises McCain to run to the center and abandon the right-wing pandering he's been engaged in for the last eight years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051603729.html

However, this article today seems to indicate that McCain is going to label himself as a "conservative Republican" and Obama as a "liberal Democrat," hoping that the election ultimately comes down to race.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080518/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_beating_obama;_ylt=AppEJBnwpHJFfQdMfGID5sGs0NUE

Thoughts?

My main thought is that absolutely nowhere in that article does it even remotely suggest that McCain is hoping for racism to surface, even though you slapped that on the heading of the thread.

If McCain is running to the right, he's either completely tone-deaf or taking a calculated gamble that he can't win the independent vote because of the Republican problems and is thus hoping the election comes down to race.
 
It's a double-edged sword.

In order to get the nomination, he has to please the hard core conservatives.

In order to win the presidency, he has to please the moderates.

I think McCain is closer to being a moderate, but based on what happened in 2000, he knows the game he has to play in order to get the nomination.
 
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spinning27 said:
PCLoadLetter said:
spinning27 said:
If you read **** Morris today in the Washington Post, he advises McCain to run to the center and abandon the right-wing pandering he's been engaged in for the last eight years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/16/AR2008051603729.html

However, this article today seems to indicate that McCain is going to label himself as a "conservative Republican" and Obama as a "liberal Democrat," hoping that the election ultimately comes down to race.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080518/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_beating_obama;_ylt=AppEJBnwpHJFfQdMfGID5sGs0NUE

Thoughts?

My main thought is that absolutely nowhere in that article does it even remotely suggest that McCain is hoping for racism to surface, even though you slapped that on the heading of the thread.

If McCain is running to the right, he's either completely tone-deaf or taking a calculated gamble that he can't win the independent vote because of the Republican problems and is thus hoping the election comes down to race.

No.

He's painting Obama as "Liberal" because a huge percentage of the people in this country **** their pants when they hear the word "liberal."

And seriously, what's McCain going to do? He's conservative. To pretend otherwise is just going to antagonize the base.
 
The Morris article was pure, premium bull****. It basically did everything but flatout say some people won't vote for Obama because he's black. The guy goes from being a Democratic operative to being a rightwinger in the span of one hooker. He's all fluff and nothing else.
 
spinning27 said:
However, this article today seems to indicate that McCain is going to label himself as a "conservative Republican" and Obama as a "liberal Democrat," hoping that the election ultimately comes down to race.

Banking on a strategy that recently worked like a charm for Republicans in those well-known swing states, Louisiana and Mississippi.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
It's a double-edged sword.

In order to get the nomination, he has to please the hard core conservatives.

In order to win the presidency, he has to please the moderates.

I think McCain is closer to being a moderate, but based on what happened in 2000, he knows the game he has to play in order to get the nomination.


Ah, the Straight Talk Express!
Biggest. Fake. Ever.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
It's a double-edged sword.

In order to get the nomination, he has to please the hard core conservatives.

In order to win the presidency, he has to please the moderates.

I think McCain is closer to being a moderate, but based on what happened in 2000, he knows the game he has to play in order to get the nomination.

He's already got the nomination locked up. Bigger issue might be whether his base would stay home for the general election if he doesn't pander to them.
 
I think McCain will get anti-Obama votes for whatever reasons and he doesn't need to court that sentiment. He's got to worry about Bob Barr flanking him on the right, hope there is some terror incident or scare between now and November and try and court some of Clinton's supporters.
And he might want to inject some language like "a new way forward" or "beyond Iraq" into his message.
 
Are there conservatives out there who still don't think McCain is truly a conservative?
 
Beaker said:
Are there conservatives out there who still don't think McCain is truly a conservative?

Lots of them.
Largely because the conservative "movement" handed the keys over religious extremists and angry children.
 
DanOregon said:
I think McCain will get anti-Obama votes for whatever reasons and he doesn't need to court that sentiment. He's got to worry about Bob Barr flanking him on the right, hope there is some terror incident or scare between now and November and try and court some of Clinton's supporters.
And he might want to inject some language like "a new way forward" or "beyond Iraq" into his message.

Yep, he needs a catchphrase. Bush specialized in them, and Obama has taken a page of of the GOP playbook with his "Change" slogan.

I find it almost ridiculous though, on the rare times I find myself listening to Sean Hannity (long car rides, tired of same 5 songs on the radio) ranting about Obama's "Bumper-sticker campaign." Heck, Bush was using "Cut and Run" every day that someone criticized the Iraq War.
 
Baron Scicluna said:
DanOregon said:
I think McCain will get anti-Obama votes for whatever reasons and he doesn't need to court that sentiment. He's got to worry about Bob Barr flanking him on the right, hope there is some terror incident or scare between now and November and try and court some of Clinton's supporters.
And he might want to inject some language like "a new way forward" or "beyond Iraq" into his message.

Yep, he needs a catchphrase. Bush specialized in them, and Obama has taken a page of of the GOP playbook with his "Change" slogan.

I find it almost ridiculous though, on the rare times I find myself listening to Sean Hannity (long car rides, tired of same 5 songs on the radio) ranting about Obama's "Bumper-sticker campaign." Heck, Bush was using "Cut and Run" every day that someone criticized the Iraq War.


Sean Hannity arguing for depth is pretty hilarious listening, though.
 
How nice of Liz to assert, with no backing, that conservative = racist.
What a pile of garbage.
 

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