Lost Finale

[Ashy Larry]

Great episode....I agree with whoever said that we'll see the Others and the survivors align to take on the boat people..........and Jack taking OC 80's was a bit surprising....that's for sure.

 

[beefncheddar]

Stupid question that I haven't seen addressed on the fansites:

Are we to believe the flash-forward is Jack's true future? Are we to believe it is present day?

Because isn't it possible that this "future" could be changed by whatever happens on the island next?

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Stupid question that I haven't seen addressed on the fansites:

Are we to believe the flash-forward is Jack's true future? Are we to believe it is present day?

Because isn't it possible that this "future" could be changed by whatever happens on the island next?

The alternate timeline has been touched upon with Desmond's flashbacks and his visions.

 

[Runaway Jim]

Could the people on the mysterious boat be from Dharma? We know Ben participated in the uprising that killed all the original Dharma people on the island. Maybe he learned something about them and what they were attempting to do there and that's what caused him to defect and turn on them.

And since the pulse knocked out communication off the island, perhaps Dharma sent a ship to find out what was happening. That would certainly be good reason for Ben to believe their arrival would signify the death of everyone currently on the island -- Losties and Others combined. He thinks the Others are the "good guys," but that doesn't mean he considers the Losties to be the "bad guys." Maybe he thinks the Dharma people are.

 

[kokane_muthashed]

Ben? Sawyer? Locke?

I was thinking maybe Juliet. Don't think it's Sawyer because Kate says, "I have to get back. He'll be wondering where I went." when she was talking to Jack in the flash forward. I assume she's referring to Sawyer. Don't think it's Locke because I don't see him leaving the island under any circumstances. Same goes for Ben. But it could be Ben. That would be my second guess.

 

[Pilot]

I tell ya what I liked about it so much: For once, it didn't hold back. People didn't cave in, for the most part. I've watched every episode of that damn show and every single freaking time Jack or a plane person is in a bind, they back down, wait for later. play it safe. Not last night. Last night they put their asses on the line to get rid of the others and to get off the damn island. It was finally like they said "Enough of this bull****."

To do that and still leave so many intriguing options for next season was simply awesome.

Locke held back.

He murders Naomi when she's using the sat-phone. He threatens to kill Jack to stop him, but then silently slips off into the jungle when Jack begins using it.

I guess in that scene I meant Jack didn't hold back. Jack could have wilted there, but didn't.

 

[Eagles1 in London]

Ben? Sawyer? Locke?

I was thinking maybe Juliet. Don't think it's Sawyer because Kate says, "I have to get back. He'll be wondering where I went." when she was talking to Jack in the flash forward. I assume she's referring to Sawyer. Don't think it's Locke because I don't see him leaving the island under any circumstances. Same goes for Ben. But it could be Ben. That would be my second guess.

it could be kate's son that would be wondering where kates gone off to (assuming she's pregnant and enough time passed for her to have the child)

 

[murciélago]

If Ben doesn't think the Losties are bad -- and that's a reasonable hypothesis -- then why does Ben hold them in such contempt? It's like he's never willing to be square with them. He's like that with his own people, I know, but he's usually more straightforward with his lieutenants.

Ben isn't straight with Jack at all. Or any of the Oceanic 815 peeps.

 

[Orange Hat Bobcat]

Could the people on the mysterious boat be from Dharma? We know Ben participated in the uprising that killed all the original Dharma people on the island. Maybe he learned something about them and what they were attempting to do there and that's what caused him to defect and turn on them.

Shortly after Charlie punched in the transmission code and Penny Widmore flashed across the screen, my LOST viewing partner turned to me and wondered how Penny could have a video feed to the Looking Glass hatch. Good question, friend.

MLVP thought perhaps the expansive Widmore company had something to do with Dharma -- or, even more directly, was Dharma -- an idea that isn't totally off-base. How else could Penny have had such a clear and direct line? She was hooked up to a Dharma hatch, after all.

Thoughts ... Widmore Industries at least has some very heavy involvement in Dharma, and Penny has used her family connections in an attempt to find Desmond. Between the seasons 2 and 3 finales (probably between five and six weeks in real time), she has connected more of the dots and figured out where Desmond is and hacked into some system to try and find him. If that theory is somewhat correct, the boat from which Naomi reached the island could still be associated with Dharma.

All of which leaves my head hurting.

After last night -- after the flash forwards and all the twists -- I just want to sit back this summer, watch the first two seasons again and throw back a few more OC tablets of LOST.

 

[leo1]

OHB, good points about penny. i was surprised that this past season didn't really address her. i think they have to do something with her next season given that she's now been a part of both season finales with little in between.

that was a terrific episode. i was stunned by the ending. i loved it.

seems strange that jack and kate had a previously agreed upon secret meeting place by the fence of the airport. i understand the symbolism but this means they'd previously - since getting back - been spending time together watching planes take off and/or land.

my guess is that locke never got off the island so it can't be him who died.

can't ****ing wait until lost starts up again in six months.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

can't ****ing wait until lost starts up again in six months.

Six months? Try nine, as in February 2008.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

Dialogue exchange of the year:
"He surrendered. You didn't have to kill him."
Sawyer: "I didn't believe him."

 

[joe]

BTW, how cool was it to hear Nirvana in a television show or movie? I think Courtney has just started allowing that, but she's very protective of it, as well. But it really jarred me, because it had never been done before.

And "Scentless Apprentice" at that. Great song.

 

[chews2lose2]

I was intrigued by Jack's response to the funeral director's question of friend or family.
Jack said either. Who on the island, besides Kate and we know it isn't her and I'm fairly sure it was a man, would get that kind of response?
And Ben wiped out the entire Dharma group, including his dad, and he's not the bad guy. The real bad guys are out on the boat.
Really?

I thought he said neither.

I thought he said neither.

I thought that, if it is someone that we know, there person in the coffin is Ben as well -- because I think that Jack would have considered Locke his friend.

He wouldn't have considered Locke his friend after what happened last night would he -- with Locke pointing the gun at him and everything? I think those two are headed for a throwdown.

Jack definitely said neither and was offered to view the person inside and totally refused.

 

[chews2lose2]

At the end when Jack shows Kate the obituary he says to her "I thought you would go."
She answers "why would I?" So it has to be someone she cares nothing about or perhaps hates and someone that is neither friend or family to Jack but he cares.

Jack so desperately feels he made such a mistake leaving the island while Kate seems glad to be back. Best ending of a show in years. Gee, February seems a lifetime away.

 

[chews2lose2]

One other thing...at the airport kate asks Jack if he's been drinking again and also the two have met at "the usual " place at the airport before. It seems as though they are back for a long time.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

How do we know the "he" Kate referred to wasn't a child?

 

[JayFarrar]

How do we know the "he" Kate referred to wasn't a child?

We don't. We don't know anything about what the plan is for the show.
And that is by design, keep us guessing and talking about the show until February.
The only thing for sure is that we're getting 48 more episodes, or three seasons of 16 shows, and worth noting that 3:16 has no meaning, as some suspected. (John 3:16, the one for God so loved the world He gave His only son.)

Here's a curiousity, why were the Others building a runway? Great line from Juliet when she said it was for the alien, then said she was kidding

 

[Jack_Bauer24]

Could it be Claire in the coffin? I definitely heard Jack say "either" to the friend or family question at the funeral home and maybe he pieced together that he was somehow related to Claire. And perhaps Kate wouldn't go to her funeral because she was rescued and left everyone else behind? Desmond only said he saw Claire and Aaron getting on a helicopter. Or maybe something happens in the upcoming seasons that leads Kate to view Claire with contempt?
After writing this, I'm probably way off, especially now that I remember reading that the newspaper clipping for a death referred to a "he." But then again, it wasn't an obit so that clipping could have been unrelated to the funeral?
Who knows...my head is spinning and that's why you've got to love this show.

 

[chews2lose2]

How do we know the "he" Kate referred to wasn't a child?

Depends how old the child is. They could be back for years.