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Yeah I just referenced Kiss. At least Flying Headbutt might like it.

I got to start a baseball thread. *******!

Fun fact: If the Red Sox and Yankees play a one-game playoff for all the marbles, it'll occur Oct. 1--one day before the 29th anniversary of Bucky ****in Dent.
 
Re: Let's Put The X In The Baseball Thread

I got excited for a second when I saw the preview of the title on the main board. Rock and roll!!!!!!!
 
Fun fact:
The Red Sox 3-5 hitters (Ortiz, Manny and Drew) have combined for 43 homers. ARod has 39.
 
Here's my post from the last thread that was squelched, although it's highly debatable whether it deserves a reprieve:

Angola! said:
JackyJackBN said:
JackyJackBN said:
It would be fun to have those three games in Yankee Stadium against the M's in early September mean something.

If Jeff Weaver pitches one of those games, the faithful should be in full cry.

I thought I was just throwing a random observation out there. Maybe I have a future as a troll! Let's see; creamora threatened me physically, Rokski out-haikued me three to one, JDV lumps me in with the other Villa Army wannabes--it's a desperation thing, whatever--but I never thought I'd light Angola off like a five-cent firecracker.

I have a future. ;)

Sorry. I was just so excited when the Yankees made that trade to get Jeff Weaver. I thought he was going to be nails for years to come and instead he spit the bit and was terrible.

I can't figure the guy out. The team shaved their heads toward the end of their most recent losing streak, and only Weaver opted out. On the other hand, he never ducked interviews, even when he was at his worst.

He seems to have a resilient arm, and he can throw strikes from several angles when he's on. Earlier this year his pitches were flat and minus a yard or two; now they have has some break and some zip.

He would bring on some serious outrage if he pitched in that September series. And danged if I know how he would handle it.

Is there something about dealing with Scott Boras that makes his clients go sideways?
 
JackyJackBN said:
Here's my post from the last thread that was squelched, although it's highly debatable whether it deserves a reprieve:

Angola! said:
JackyJackBN said:
JackyJackBN said:
It would be fun to have those three games in Yankee Stadium against the M's in early September mean something.

If Jeff Weaver pitches one of those games, the faithful should be in full cry.

I thought I was just throwing a random observation out there. Maybe I have a future as a troll! Let's see; creamora threatened me physically, Rokski out-haikued me three to one, JDV lumps me in with the other Villa Army wannabes--it's a desperation thing, whatever--but I never thought I'd light Angola off like a five-cent firecracker.

I have a future. ;)

Sorry. I was just so excited when the Yankees made that trade to get Jeff Weaver. I thought he was going to be nails for years to come and instead he spit the bit and was terrible.

I can't figure the guy out. The team shaved their heads toward the end of their most recent winning streak, and only Weaver opted out. On the other hand, he never ducked interviews, even when he was at his worst.

He seems to have a resilient arm, and he can throw strikes from several angles when he's on. Earlier this year his pitches were flat and minus a yard or two; now they have has some break and some zip.

He would bring on some serious outrage if he pitched in that September series. And danged if I know how he would handle it.

Is there something about dealing with Scott Boras that makes his clients go sideways?

That is why I hate Weaver so much. He has nasty **** when he is on, but he didn't ever seem to be on in New York. I don't know if he is a head case or what, but I remember him in Detroit and thinking how good he was. I really, really thought he was going to be very good for the next 5-10 years for the Yankees.
Of course, I was also excited when they acquired Home-run Javy Vazquez. So, take my opinion for what it's worth.
 
Fun fact: In 59 starts, Clemens, Mussina and Pettitte have 20 wins.

In 22 starts, Beckett has 15 wins
 
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buckweaver said:
I never thought the dude was that good in Detroit. Thought he had a thousand-dollar arm and a ten-cent head, destined to be the best pitcher on bad teams, not a reliable pitcher on good teams. Eternal trade bait. Never a guy you want on the mound.

His brother, meanwhile ...

Well, I was a lot younger and not nearly as jaded about life and baseball then. So, maybe I misinterpreted how good Weaver was. I just always liked him and thought he would be good. Of course, a starter relying on a Jeff Nelson-esque frisbee pitch is maybe not the best thing in the world.
 
friend of a friend said:
Fun fact: In 59 starts, Clemens, Mussina and Pettitte have 20 wins.

In 22 starts, Beckett has 15 wins

Fun fact:
The only reason I care how many wins Beckett has is because it will help BYH win his bet.
 
Angola! said:
So, maybe I misinterpreted how good Weaver was. I just always liked him and thought he would be good. Of course, a starter relying on a Jeff Nelson-esque frisbee pitch is maybe not the best thing in the world.

... you, and a thousand other scouts of contending teams at the trade deadline.

I have never, NEVER, understood what other people see in him. Not in 1999. Not in 2005. Not in last year's playoffs. And certainly not the umpteen times he's imploded in midseason.

When the Yanks traded for him before the deadline in 2002, he was 39-51 overall. Today, he's 89-111 career. A below-average pitcher, and he always will be.
 
buckweaver said:
Angola! said:
So, maybe I misinterpreted how good Weaver was. I just always liked him and thought he would be good. Of course, a starter relying on a Jeff Nelson-esque frisbee pitch is maybe not the best thing in the world.

... you, and a thousand other scouts of contending teams at the trade deadline.

I have never, NEVER, understood what other people see in him. Not in 1999. Not in 2005. Not in last year's playoffs. And certainly not the umpteen times he's imploded in midseason.

When the Yanks traded for him before the deadline in 2002, he was 39-51 overall. Today, he's 89-111 career. A below-average pitcher, and he always will be.

Which is one reason I see the Mariners falling off. Though I also don't think the Yankees will win the division because their offense is going to fade. The only way they stay hot is if their starting pitching really steps up.
 
I think the Mariners' future hinges more on Miguel Batista than on Jeff Weaver. For every game like Sunday's, Weaver has one exactly the opposite. Batista has been surprisingly reliable to this point.
 
Claude Badley said:
I think the Mariners' future hinges more on Miguel Batista than on Jeff Weaver. For every game like Sunday's, Weaver has one exactly the opposite. Batista has been surprisingly reliable to this point.

If by reliable you mean incredibly fortunate...yes. He's got a WHIP of 1.51. I see his luck changing down the stretch.

And any team that still plans to send Horacio Ramirez out to the mound every five days is walking a tightrope. Ramirez is 7-3 with a 7.12 ERA and 1.85 ERA. That's ****ing remarkable.
 
BYH said:
Claude Badley said:
I think the Mariners' future hinges more on Miguel Batista than on Jeff Weaver. For every game like Sunday's, Weaver has one exactly the opposite. Batista has been surprisingly reliable to this point.

If by reliable you mean incredibly fortunate...yes. He's got a WHIP of 1.51. I see his luck changing down the stretch.

And any team that still plans to send Horacio Ramirez out to the mound every five days is walking a tightrope. Ramirez is 7-3 with a 7.12 ERA and 1.85 ERA. That's ****ing remarkable.

I assume something was mis-typed in this post, BYH? Just curious what the 1.85 is. WHIP?
 
Angola! said:
BYH said:
Claude Badley said:
I think the Mariners' future hinges more on Miguel Batista than on Jeff Weaver. For every game like Sunday's, Weaver has one exactly the opposite. Batista has been surprisingly reliable to this point.

If by reliable you mean incredibly fortunate...yes. He's got a WHIP of 1.51. I see his luck changing down the stretch.

And any team that still plans to send Horacio Ramirez out to the mound every five days is walking a tightrope. Ramirez is 7-3 with a 7.12 ERA and 1.85 ERA. That's ****ing remarkable.

I assume something was mis-typed in this post, BYH? Just curious what the 1.85 is. WHIP?

My bad. Yes, 1.85 WHIP. I don't think Horacio Ramirez has sniffed a 1.85 ERA since high school.
 
Someone asked me who I thought would win the NL pennant this year.

I have no clue since it seems every team sucks.

Thoughts?
 
Bubbler said:
Someone asked me who I thought would win the NL pennant this year.

I have no clue since it seems every team sucks.

Thoughts?

I picked the Dodgers when the season began. Might as well stick with it.
 
Oz said:
Bubbler said:
Someone asked me who I thought would win the NL pennant this year.

I have no clue since it seems every team sucks.

Thoughts?

I picked the Dodgers when the season began. Might as well stick with it.

I don't know about the NL pennant, but let me throw another, less-publicized team that was long ago left for dead.

St. Louis Cardinals.

The Cardinals are below .500, but hanging around at 5 1/2 back. They have three against the Brewers in Milwaukee this week. If they do anything with that, they're back in it for the long haul (they're probably dead in the water if the Brewers win the series). I believe the Cardinals have three at Wrigley after that.

Like the Yankees, not dead by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Bubbler said:
Oz said:
Bubbler said:
Someone asked me who I thought would win the NL pennant this year.

I have no clue since it seems every team sucks.

Thoughts?

I picked the Dodgers when the season began. Might as well stick with it.

I don't know about the NL pennant, but let me throw another, less-publicized team that was long ago left for dead.

St. Louis Cardinals.

The Cardinals are below .500, but hanging around at 5 1/2 back. They have three against the Brewers in Milwaukee this week. If they do anything with that, they're back in it for the long haul (they're probably dead in the water if the Brewers win the series). I believe the Cardinals have three at Wrigley after that.

Like the Yankees, not dead by any stretch of the imagination.

Actually, the Cards have four at Wrigley. This is a big week for both of the ****ty teams that are the objects of our respective baseball affection, Bubs.
 
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