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An editorial by Ed Zintel in Editor & Publisher thinks modern sports writing isn't as good as it was previously: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/TopStories/Article/Editorial--Let-Me-Know-When-the-Days-of-Great-Sports-Writing-Return2013-12-19T08-26-39
 
Yet he never actually articulates what modern sports writing is lacking. Is it not serious enough? Is it not informative enough? Are writers sacrificing the aforementioned qualities in an attempt to entertain? What am I missing here?
 
Shorter Ed Zintel: Goddammit, Jim Murray died.

Personally, I wish basketball would stop sucking. Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan and Michael Jordaned everything and now nobody ever Michael Jordans anymore.
 
I would argue that the public does not want to read great sportswriting anymore.

We all do. We can appreciate a good investigative piece or a well-sourced feature. I'm not sure most people do.

I think they can appreciate a good column, but not much beyond that.

I was talking with a friend who works at one of the big websites and he said the big-name feature writer who they paid a fortune for (it's not Wright Thompson) barely generates any clicks. That same writer is a board favorite who we all go nuts for everytime he writes. It's at the point where they're discussing if this guy is worth keeping when his contract is up.

If this guy was let go, he'd be unemployed for about a day, but it is interesting that the guys who write the long-form features or the good investigative pieces aren't appreciated the way most of us think they should be.

People want Bill Simmons columns or MMQB or stuff like that.
 
There is more great sportswriting than there used to be - more crap though too.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I was talking with a friend who works at one of the big websites and he said the big-name feature writer who they paid a fortune for (it's not Wright Thompson) barely generates any clicks. That same writer is a board favorite who we all go nuts for everytime he writes. It's at the point where they're discussing if this guy is worth keeping when his contract is up.

If this guy was let go, he'd be unemployed for about a day, but it is interesting that the guys who write the long-form features or the good investigative pieces aren't appreciated the way most of us think they should be.

Long-form features and investigative pieces aren't the same thing -- there's more audience for the latter than the former, IMO -- and not all (or even much) long-form sportswriting is necessary, even if it's good.

I disagree my share with Wetzel, but he's the best in the business. He's usually at the right events, or writing about the right events, his commentary is sharp and incisive, and the length of his pieces rarely overstay their welcome. He's not real funny. That's about all you don't get.
 
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Mizzougrad96 said:
People want Bill Simmons columns or MMQB or stuff like that.

Oh, and let's not sniff our noses too damn hard here. MMQB is, for readers, damn good. Who are we kidding? I read MMQB every week. I'd read that before anything Gary Smith wrote.

And folks know my general take on Simmons -- that without ESPN, his audience wouldn't follow, in part because he's a limited writer -- but he is funny and witty.
 
I'm with DanOregon....either Zintel hasn't been reading widely enough or he's reading too widely....
 
Alma said:
Mizzougrad96 said:
People want Bill Simmons columns or MMQB or stuff like that.

Oh, and let's not sniff our noses too damn hard here. MMQB is, for readers, damn good. Who are we kidding? I read MMQB every week. I'd read that before anything Gary Smith wrote.

And folks know my general take on Simmons -- that without ESPN, his audience wouldn't follow, in part because he's a limited writer -- but he is funny and witty.

That was definitely not a shot at either of them. I'm a huge PK fan and I've come around on Simmons.
 
Check out Kevin Van Valkenbergs twitter time line for a great takedown of this article.
 
There's so much good sports writing out there that most of us don't have time to read it all. Which is telling because we can now read it on about a dozen or so different platforms. It takes one second to click on a link, a luxury the good ol' boys didn't have.

I didn't even read the article because the premise is so ****ing stupid.
 
Alma said:
Long-form features and investigative pieces aren't the same thing -- there's more audience for the latter than the former, IMO -- and not all (or even much) long-form sportswriting is necessary, even if it's good.

I agree wholeheartedly with the point about long-form. I find a lot of long-form stories to be belabored and overwrought with minutiae. They come across like verbose sales pitches where you can feel the writer straining to convince you to care about things that aren't as important as the writer thinks they are.
 
It's sort of like when somebody watches Two Broke Girls and Real Housewives of Somewhere and proclaims TV today is terrible despite the fact there are more quality shows on than ever. There might also be more bad shows too, but there are tons of good choices.
 
Jake_Taylor said:
It's sort of like when somebody watches Two Broke Girls and Real Housewives of Somewhere and proclaims TV today is terrible despite the fact there are more quality shows on than ever. There might also be more bad shows too, but there are tons of good choices.

Or, when people only judge music by what is still played/treasured/remembered and forget how much terrible stuff there was "back in the good old days" as well. Look at a top 40 chart from any time in the past 50 years and you'll find just as much garbage as there is on the radio today.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I would argue that the public does not want to read great sportswriting anymore.

We all do. We can appreciate a good investigative piece or a well-sourced feature. I'm not sure most people do.

I think they can appreciate a good column, but not much beyond that.

I was talking with a friend who works at one of the big websites and he said the big-name feature writer who they paid a fortune for (it's not Wright Thompson) barely generates any clicks. That same writer is a board favorite who we all go nuts for everytime he writes. It's at the point where they're discussing if this guy is worth keeping when his contract is up.

If this guy was let go, he'd be unemployed for about a day, but it is interesting that the guys who write the long-form features or the good investigative pieces aren't appreciated the way most of us think they should be.

People want Bill Simmons columns or MMQB or stuff like that.
In total agreement. Most of the public enjoys being the choir to whom is preached. That's why former legit sportswriters are working for school athletic web sites and writing zero controversial stuff and not crossing control-freak coaches.
 
I would love to see analytics on writers who receive the most adulation here.
And I suspect them viewing their own web strikes would be positively terrifying.
 
Let me know when guys who have been stealing money and gliding along strictly on reputation for two decades, plus, are finally isolated and picked off. Thanks.
 
Walter Lippmann said:
Most sports writing in ye olden' times wasn't that great, either. Just look in the morgue of various papers.

Absolutely. Granny Rice wrote a TON of maudlin crap.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
I would argue that the public does not want to read great sportswriting anymore.

We all do. We can appreciate a good investigative piece or a well-sourced feature. I'm not sure most people do.

I think they can appreciate a good column, but not much beyond that.

I was talking with a friend who works at one of the big websites and he said the big-name feature writer who they paid a fortune for (it's not Wright Thompson) barely generates any clicks. That same writer is a board favorite who we all go nuts for everytime he writes. It's at the point where they're discussing if this guy is worth keeping when his contract is up.

If this guy was let go, he'd be unemployed for about a day, but it is interesting that the guys who write the long-form features or the good investigative pieces aren't appreciated the way most of us think they should be.

People want Bill Simmons columns or MMQB or stuff like that.

I feel like sports reporting has gotten a lot more analytical in the last couple of years. For instance, you see more and more NFL reporters doing their own "film review" the day after a game, going off either what they recorded on their TV or All-22 film available on NFL Game Rewind. I religiously follow FishDuck.com, which is dedicated to Oregon's football strategy, and they do a pretty damn good job of it too. There are more and more sites like this popping up, and I don't think that's exactly a bad thing. The flowing narrative is but one element of sports reporting.
 
I see Zintel's point and agree. The younger guys don't go deep enough into a story or attempt to be witty. There is talent but the market has changed dramatically. The days of the long drawn out pieces that captivate you are gone but not forgotten by this scribe.
 

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