Law & Order - All Versions - New Season Thread

[Cadet]

We're just past the opening credits of Criminal Intent and already I'm cranky.

1. They messed with the schedule. Two on Tuesday, one on Friday. Bah.

2. Where is D'Onofrio?

3. Where is the brunette female partner (can't remember her name)? Her character rocked.

4. They took the redhead from that defunct DA show, gave her a horrific haircut and made her the new female partner on CI. WTF?

If they've ****ed with SVU the way they've ****ed with this show, I'll be really pissed.

 

[joe]

Re: Law & Order Premiere Thread

Like Noth much better than that twitchy Pvt. Pyle. I couldn't tell if the redhead was trying to act like she was a lesbian or what.
At least Stabler's new, blonde, partner is hot.

 

[Sxysprtswrtr]

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Um, sorry Cadet but L&O premiere week was last week.

1. They changed the schedule because "Conviction" was cancelled and they wanted L&O in the primetime slot on Friday.

2. D'Onofrio? Of the 26 episodes, him and and his same partner are doing half of the episodes while Noth and the chick who was on "Conviction" are doing the other 13.

3. As far as the regular L&O and the ADA... there were a lot of off-season changes. Etc.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Re: Law & Order Premiere Thread

Adding the Conviction girl doesn't bother me as much as Carver leaving the show. He was a great ADA on on CI.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Re: Law & Order Premiere Thread

Eh, I think Carver was wasted on CI. I could so easily see Courtney B. Vance taking over Fred Thompson's gig someday (and wish he would), with the way **** Wolf recycles actors. Which he did on SVU, making Robert Vaughn (who on L&O a few years ago was a major player in NYC politics, and a bipolar loony, who tried to defeat Schiff in one of those infamous "election years") into some grandpa who wasn't given much to do.

I like Noth and Nicholson together on CI. With Noth on, the show has a feel what L&O would be if they basically cut out the DAs' half of the show. D'Onofrio and Erbe have grown on me, and I prefer them by a narrow margin. And I think Bogosian has promise, certainly has more presence than Jamey Sheridan.

SVU seems like it will be fine with Hargitay gone; it looks like they may rely on high concept cases over basic sex crimes. I hope tonight was a step toward getting Stabler's **** settled. With Benson clearly never destined to knock boots with Stabler (which is a good thing), giving him a new partner for a while so he can finally come to the crossroads with his wife and face his last temptation of Christ will be welcome.

 

[Inky_Wretch]

Re: Law & Order Premiere Thread

Eh, I think Carver was wasted on CI. I could so easily see Courtney B. Vance taking over Fred Thompson's gig someday (and wish he would)...

I was hoping he'd take over the ADA role on the mothership when Jack McCoy moves into the big office. Of course, that hinges on the L&O mothership still being here another few years.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Re: Law & Order Premiere Thread

I think the Friday night move puts the over/under on L&O at three more seasons. I gotta think it'll get a 20th season, no matter the ratings, then adios.

 

[Cadet]

It's Friday night and I'm cranky again.

The brunette chick from Conviction is now the new detective on the original. First the redhead on CI, now this. What gives?

Here's what I don't like: We were supposed to believe that Conviction was in the same time/place realm as the other Law & Orders, as evidenced by having Alexandra Cabot as the original SVU character on Conviction.

Now we're supposed to believe that we've never seen these chicks before and suddenly they're detectives?

Plus, the premise of Conviction was that the lower-level lawyers were young - something like average age 27? - and now we're supposed to believe they're homicide and major case detectives?

Grrr.... cranky that they've screwed with my favorite show(s).

 

[joe]

Does that chick who was on L&O tonight have braces or what? I couldn't quit staring at her mouth, wondering what the **** was up with it.

 

[dooley_womack1]

CI was OK. So was SVU. The new gal is not a fully developed character yet, and they should have had Stabler dealing with his family, since they made such a big deal about it last week. They just kinda acted like it didn't happen. And what's with Leslie Caron as a guest. Long way from Gigi. And next week, Jerry Lewis. Is SVU becoming Matlock?

 

[slappy4428]

Which he did on SVU, making Robert Vaughn (who on L&O a few years ago was a major player in NYC politics, and a bipolar loony, who tried to defeat Schiff in one of those infamous "election years") into some grandpa who wasn't given much to do.

Wow. Can't believe you punted this.
No, Vaughn didn't run. But he did everything to could to make sure that "twerp" Gary Feldman won....

 

[dooley_womack1]

Which he did on SVU, making Robert Vaughn (who on L&O a few years ago was a major player in NYC politics, and a bipolar loony, who tried to defeat Schiff in one of those infamous "election years") into some grandpa who wasn't given much to do.

Wow. Can't believe you punted this.
No, Vaughn didn't run. But he did everything to could to make sure that "twerp" Gary Feldman won....

Yes, tried to defeat Schiff by funding Feldman and making sure others wouldn't fund Schiff. I didn't say he ran.

 

[micropolitan guy]

And I think Bogosian has promise, certainly has more presence than Jamey Sheridan.

He had a part in an episode about a talk radio show host who is killed on a classic L&O many years ago, I believe.

Didn't Vaughn's grandson also kill or attack someone on another episode and get convicted, starting up all the trouble between his character and Adam S?

 

[slappy4428]

OK, copy guy... by saying he tried to defeat Schiff, you implied he ran. Jebus....

Vaughn's grandson was an arsonist and ended up killing his sister (might be wrong on that), but yeah, Vaughn's character thought he should have been helped out.

 

[dooley_womack1]

And I think Bogosian has promise, certainly has more presence than Jamey Sheridan.

He had a part in an episode about a talk radio show host who is killed on a classic L&O many years ago, I believe.

Didn't Vaughn's grandson also kill or attack someone on another episode and get convicted, starting up all the trouble between his character and Adam S?

Actually, being a talk radio host was Bogosian's main schtick as a performance artist, kind of Mamet territory. Bogosian was also a villian in a Segal movie, and he was solid on CI this week. And the arson thing with Vaughn is dead on.

 

[slappy4428]

And I think Bogosian has promise, certainly has more presence than Jamey Sheridan.

He had a part in an episode about a talk radio show host who is killed on a classic L&O many years ago, I believe.

Didn't Vaughn's grandson also kill or attack someone on another episode and get convicted, starting up all the trouble between his character and Adam S?

Actually, being a talk radio host was Bogosian's main schtick as a performance artist, kind of Mamet territory. Bogosian was also a villian in a Segal movie, and he was solid on CI this week. And the arson thing with Vaughn is dead on.

Bogosian was also in a movie years ago, playing a Denver talk radio host who was killed for his outspokeness and views... Find something and stick with it I suppose.

 

[ifilus]

Talk Radio is a 1988 film, starring Eric Bogosian as a controversial "shock jock" who is murdered by a crazed listener. It is directed by Oliver Stone, and is based on the real life murder of radio host Alan Berg by Neo-Nazis[1], and the book about those events, Talked to Death: The Life and Murder of Alan Berg by Stephen Singular, and the play by Eric Bogosian and Tad Savinar.

 

[micropolitan guy]

He played on an L&O episode named "Conspiracy" in 1992 and one called "Night and Fog" in 1993 as a character named Gary Lowenthal. (thanks, GOogle). Maybe he wasn't a talk show guy, maybe I'm confusing that with the movie. But I did remember him from L&O, the cradle of many 1990s-2000 actors.

 

[slappy4428]

I read "Talked to Death" ... some odd stuff...

 

[Editude]

SVU is becoming the flagship Law and Order, and it does a good job with the supporting characters. Missing me some Mariska, though. ::)